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Old 13th Jun 2012, 03:42
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PPRUNE change of Privacy Policy

Just notice a change of privacy policy from Internet Brands. Suggest you all check it out.

This is the stuff that could get you in strife...

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Old 13th Jun 2012, 04:27
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I think we should all come clean now. I'll start. My name is Steve.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 04:33
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Here is the Link:
BBC News - Websites to be forced to identify trolls under new measures

UK only - so far
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 04:36
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In other words, don't post anything that could be considered defamation against someone. The internet is not anonymous
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Dahite.........
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 06:09
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I take back everything I have said about Joyce and Clifford. lovely chaps.
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If you speak the truth, however ugly, it is not libel or slander as I see it under Australian law.


Uniform legislation was passed in Australiain 2005 severely restricting the right of corporations to sue for defamation(see, e.g., Defamation Act 2005 (Vic), s 9). The only corporationsexcluded from the general ban are those not for profit or those with less than 10 employees and notaffiliated with another company. Corporations may, however, still sue for thetort of injurious falsehood, where the burden of proof is greater than for meredefamation, because the plaintiff must show that the defamation was made withmalice and resulted in economic loss.

The 2005 reforms also established across allAustralian states the availability of truth as an unqualified defense;previously a number of states only allowed a defense of truth with thecondition that a public benefit existed.

Since the introduction ofthe uniform defamation laws in 2005 the distinction between slander and libelhas been abolished.


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Old 13th Jun 2012, 06:46
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....especially if it just an unqualified opinion.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 06:49
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Is this change retrospective or does it only apply to future posts? Surely previous posts are governed by previous rules, not that I have ever said anything libelous.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 07:53
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If you speak the truth, however ugly, it is not libel or slander
The definition of 'truth' is very elastic, and therein lies the problem.

FACTS / TRUTH
Airline 'X' operate 18 aircraft, average age 14 years, the oldest is 21 years.

QUESTIONABLY LIBELLOUS :
Airline 'X' operate 18 aircraft, some are very old.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 11:17
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To paraphrase someone more astute than I:
"The Law is not about the truth, it's about the Law."
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 12:43
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If you speak the truth, however ugly, it is not libel or slander as I see it under Australian law.
Australian law is not the issue. It is THIS legislation that is the problem.

SLAPP Subpoenas were arriving thick and fast there for awhile!

Surely previous posts are governed by previous rules, not that I have ever said anything libelous.
If it is still visible on this site, even though posted perhaps a decade ago, it is still relevant. One of the Subpoenas received by IB related in part to posts around 8 to 10 years ago.

I didn't know IB had changed the rules. I'll go over to the Mod House and find out what is going on.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 12:50
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Oh dear......I've posted a lot of 'pissed rubbish' do I now require a Stat Dec to affirm my 'pissed rubbish'....or will common sense prevail?? I guess common sense will not be allowed to flourish, regardless of government
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Ah, nothing like waking up and smelling the roses eh. I just looooove living in a socialist country, where we are manipulated, freedom of speech slowly taken away, seems like nobody can cop a spray anymore, taking it on the chin, they have to run to the lawyers. Political correctness is getting worse, and you wonder what on earth you are leaving your kids and grand kids. Not much by the sound of it.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 22:41
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Exactly Teresa.

Intimidation and communist style censorship more legal than having an opinion? I am officially scared!

(No offense to communism, a fine system where you can live in peaceful freedom and equality)
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 22:51
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I think we should all come clean now. I'll start. My name is Steve.
Smart arse. Have you got any other names though?
One of the Subpoenas received by IB related in part to posts around 8 to 10 years ago.
What sort of a ...(won't be libellous ) person cares about stuff written on a bulletin board 8 to 10 years ago? And what sort of damages were they claiming?
Anyway, in my opinion Qantas still suck. Anyone want to share a jail cell?

Seriously, newer members may not be aware that several years ago there was successful legal action taken by one Australian PPRuNe member against another in relation to comments made on this board.

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Old 14th Jun 2012, 00:43
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Careful...

....especially if it just an unqualified opinion.
Umm, you can get in trouble with this. If you say "X is a paedophile" (or, say, "Airline Y is unsafe"), and then later (in court...) claim it was just your unqualified opinion, I suspect you'll be sweating somewhat.
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 02:19
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Groaner, I agree but, stating what appears to be a fact and then claiming it was only an oppinion after the fact is not quite what I meant.

If I was to state "I didn't like that flight with X airlines, it didn"t feel safe to me" or "I thought Y airlines aircraft looked a bit old and ratty" surely you couldn't be crucified for that.

...and what if X actually is a convicted paedophile? Is stating a fact illegal? That would be a worry indeed as are these SLAPP things
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 05:05
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Anyone want to share a jail cell?
Only if it was with you Worrals! Depends on whether we could bring in a few bottles of good Red with us though.
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What sort of a ...(won't be libellous) person cares about stuff written on a bulletin board 8 to 10 years ago?
Those that don't like the truth?

And what sort of damages were they claiming?
Unspecified....... Damages is not the intent of a SLAPP Subpoena. Censorship is the intent!

"A strategic lawsuit against public participation (SLAPP) is a lawsuit that is intended to censor, intimidate, and silence critics by burdening them with the cost of a legal defense until they abandon their criticism or opposition."
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