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Old 14th Mar 2012, 02:26
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Is there an engagement survey on again?

If so I would like somebody to write out the questions and then our union will run the same questions so we can publish the results.
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Thanks for the idea Capt SNAFU, changed the name from Air Canada to Qantas and put it in. Il bet it wont come out in the washup!!!
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Old 14th Mar 2012, 04:56
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It was originally Continental rather than Air Canda. Jeez I feel old now!
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Opening of new A380 maintenance hangar at Lufthansa Technik Philippines

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Lufthansa Technik Philippines (LTP), one of the largest providers of aircraft maintenance services in Asia, has opened a third hangar in Manila for work on widebody aircraft. With this step, the company is preparing for the technical support of the world’s largest commercial aircraft. Lufthansa Technik Philippines, an Airbus specialist, will start cabin modifications for the Airbus A380 in April 2012.

The company, a joint venture between Lufthansa Technik (51%) and the Philippine MacroAsia Corporation (49%), invested USD 30 million in the construction of the new hangar, which is 8,500 square meters large and 35 meters in height. The new hangar offers space to work simultaneously on one widebody and two narrowbody aircraft.
“With the new hangar, we’ll be able to keep up with the increasing demand for technical services for long-haul Airbus aircraft, particularly in the Asian market,” said Lufthansa Technik AG’s Chairman of the Executive Board, August Wilhelm Henningsen. “By adding A380 capability, it underscores Lufthansa Technik Philippines’ role as global competence center for Airbus overhauls.” *

Operating the new hangar will also mean adding 400 high-technology and high-skills jobs to the existing 2,700 jobs in LTP.

“The opening of the new hangar serves to reaffirm the Filipino aviation workers’ place among the world’s best and underscores LTP ‘s long-term plans of operating in the Philippines,” said Washington SyCip, Chairman of Lufthansa Technik Philippines. *

In preparation for the capability expansion, LufthansaTechnik Philippines employees have completed trainings which consisted of A380-specific course in Lufthansa Technical Training Philippines, the on-site training center in Manila, and several months of on-the-job training performing A380 C-checks at Lufthansa Technik in Frankfurt. In these exposures, Filipino engineers and mechanics yet again benefited from the exchange of knowledge and skills within the Lufthansa Technik Group.

Eleven years after its founding, Lufthansa Technik Philippines, located at Manila’s Ninoy Aquino International Airport, offers comprehensive technical services including lease return checks and cabin modification for the Airbus A330/A340 and A320 families and now also for the Airbus A380. It has 30 overhaul customers including Philippine Airlines, Lufthansa, Qantas, Virgin Atlantic, LAN Chile and AirAsia X. Lufthansa Technik Philippines has about 20 approvals from aviation authorities including the American
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 02:53
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Further to the Ian Verrender article:
Back to basics for Joyce & Co

Here was the response in the SMH on Wed March 14th by OW
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Ian Verrender's article contains a number of claims that are either sensationalist or wrong (''Back to basics for Joyce & Co'', March 13).

He states the decision to explore establishing a new premium carrier based in Asia was a ''threat'' to the Qantas workforce and part of an ''ideological battle over trade unionism''. This is a bizarre theory.

The Asia-based carrier strategy targets the rapidly growing premium travel market in the region. It recognises that Qantas, with an Australian cost base and regulatory restrictions, cannot effectively serve this market with the frequencies needed to be competitive.

Such a carrier would not ''cannibalise'' Qantas but complement its existing network.

Substantive discussions took place in both Singapore and Malaysia. Ultimately, we could not reach an appropriate agreement. We remain committed to expanding our presence in Asia.

Industrial relations uncertainty is over for Qantas. We have moved on. It's a shame others can't.

Olivia Wirth Group executive, government and corporate affairs, Qantas Airways

Today, there was a response to the above.
Remarks don't fly

Predictably Qantas spokeswoman Olivia Wirth (Letters, March 14) has criticised Herald columnist Ian Verrender who simply pointed out the obvious: that Alan Joyce's reign as chief executive has been a disaster for this once-great airline. The Qantas board would do well to study the article and start looking for someone who can restore the faith of Australians and overseas visitors in our national carrier.

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Old 15th Mar 2012, 03:08
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Industrial relations uncertainty is over for Qantas. We have moved on. It's a shame others can't.
Huge call from Oliver given the FWA hasn't even ruled.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 03:37
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Ian Verrender's article contains a number of claims that are either sensationalist or wrong
Unlike any of Olivia's press conferences.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 04:45
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Such a carrier would not ''cannibalise'' Qantas but complement its existing network.
add shrinking between "existing _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ network" and we are closer to the truth..
OW causes more problems than she fix's with her shallow approach towards the media in my view, when things are going her way she gloats, when its not, she whinges like a spoilt brat, people in the press can see through it now more than ever, own goal..

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Old 15th Mar 2012, 06:36
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Such a carrier would not ''cannibalise'' Qantas but complement its existing network.
Livvy may have a fair point.

'Cannibalising' connotes QF stops today, JQ / 3K picks it up tomorrow.

However if QF stops today, and then tomorrow JQ / 3K says "Look! We've identified a gap in the market! We'll fill it next month!", then that's not really canibalisation, now is it...

So JQ flying say SIN-FCO (as QF used to to) would not be 'cannibalisation' of the QF network, but rather be complementary to QF's existing European network (ie. LHR and FRA)!

Brilliant!
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 07:55
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"Look! We've identified a gap in the market! We'll fill it next month!"
Spot on, sounds exactly how it would be written up in a future press release...
The question is, will the long haul LCC model work in place of the Q product? Currently Air Asia X don't think so, they are chopping routes..
Oh anyone see that 3K is down to 4 weekly to Auckland from end March?
Seems to me AJ & Co are relying too heavily on the LCC long haul model working. There is growing evidence that this may not be working in the region for flights over 6 hours. 3K/JQ SIN/ALK v SQ daily and still going strong by all reports.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 08:26
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Recieved an e-mail that suggests the following with regards to what Tony Fernandes and the present rejigging of his Air Asia are.

Remember not so long ago Joyce and Boston Bruce crowing about Jetstars and Air Asia's alignment, the synergy's etc to be gleaned.

Apparently there may have been more to "operation Darwin" than meets the eye.

Wouldn't be too hard to imagine an almost unassailable market presence if these two "married".

Only the rumour is, once Tony was shown the grand pan-Asian plan, he pocketed it and started implementing it ,without Joyce or Boston Bruce.

Another case of Joycey and Boston Bruce counting their eggs before they hatch? Red-Q in Asia, A320's, the smell of rat is rife.

Does this explain what's occuring in Japan with Jetstar rushing plans to beat Air Asia for start up ?

Will be interesting to see what occurs and if there is any truth to the rumours floating around.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 09:25
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Seems to me AJ & Co are relying too heavily on the LCC long haul model working. There is growing evidence that this may not be working in the region for flights over 6 hours. 3K/JQ SIN/ALK v SQ daily and still going strong by all reports.
SQ is double daily to AKL and daily to CHC actually! Don't know how SQ is the only airline that has flown longhaul directly into CHC for decades, while many have tried and failed. Even Air Asia X tried and failed. I suspect cargo's the better yielding market here!

I would have thought 3K could make SINAKL work. 6 years ago, SIA sent a 747 and 777 daily there, plus we had an Air NZ daily flight. When NZ pulled out, soon after, SQ downgraded the 747 to 77W and combined this took out around 400 seats a day. SQ then increased its SINAKL fares to whatever it felt like charging.

One would have thought 3K/JQ could easily fill the void left behind 6 years ago of 400 seats taken out of the route per day.

You can't even book a through ticket LHR-AKL vv on the QF website even though the QF/3K schedules on that route match very very well. Further, the AKL-SIN flight arrives in at about 6pm, which is too late for many departures from 3K's SIN hub.

SQ's 3 daily flights from NZ feed into their entire Group network of around 100 cities. 3K's 4 weekly flights barely feed into the QF Group flights in SIN (and they won't even let you book a through flight on QF's services to Europe)

Maybe that's why SQ hasn't kicked up a fuss about QF's large presence in SIN. The real threats are in Dubai and Doha.
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Only the rumour is, once Tony was shown the grand pan-Asian plan, he pocketed it and started implementing it ,without Joyce or Boston Bruce.

Another case of Joycey and Boston Bruce counting their eggs before they hatch? Red-Q in Asia, A320's, the smell of rat is rife.

Does this explain what's occuring in Japan with Jetstar rushing plans to beat Air Asia for start up ?
I meant to reply to this too. Well did Joyce have to show Tony a grand pan-Asian plan? Didn't Air Asia already have one? Today they have bases in:

KUL
BKK
CGK
Manila Clark
New startup in Japan

Air Asia eventually aims to have bases in every ASEAN capital. He has the right partners in every market he has ventured into so far to ensure he succeeds.

Air Asia also flies to every ASEAN capital today, plus China, Hong Kong, Taiwan. Now what does QF have to offer him that he doesn't already know? ?????
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Air Asia also flies to every ASEAN capital today, plus China, Hong Kong, Taiwan. Now what does QF have to offer him that he doesn't already know? ?????
How to manage it
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 11:09
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How to manage it
yep, and we know just the people he can have!
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 11:32
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Sorry Dr Pepz,
the inference from what I was sent was that this so called meeting occured some time ago.
Hence Joyce and Boston Bruce playing catch up once again.
As my mate's e-mail said ,poor old Joycey, always the bridesmaid never the bride.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 11:47
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Our Alan who art in heaven.......

Touché Green Goblin and amen.
Doesn't the Lord Joyce live an amazing life? Running around the globe meeting potential business and synergy partners, fantasizing out loud about leading the faithful flock of Qantas into a worldwide ministry, all the while Pastor Bruce champions Lord Joyces winsome words and adds his own layer of pulpit spin to the dream!
Meanwhile back in Australia Lord Joyces flock have never been more disengaged from the tabernacle, and never before has the donation boxes been so empty, empty to the tune of an 81% hit.
Sister Wirthless too has been sneaking out of the monastery and yet again publicly denouncing certain members of the Qantas flock. Of concern was her rumored appearance around Sydney this week wearing the traditional no make-up and disheveled habit.
Brethren I urge you to continue your prayers that our Lord finally be removed and sent on some other sojourn up to a higher plain, perhaps in Vatican city or Ireland and never to be heard from again.
Amen and god bless.
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If crew have to undergo random drug testing ,why not management?
Looking at most of their decisions of late, they must be on something.

As a someone close said recently, is that why some managers shave their heads, no hair samples available to test?
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He sums it up quite well,

Qantas Airways - Airline Review. Australia's declining flag carrier.

Especially this piece,

irish-born Alan Joyce, one of corporate Australia's few openly gay CEO's has been progressively de-Australianising 'the flying kangaroo' since he took over from the unloved Geoff Dixon in 2008. The airline has progressively shifted operations offshore, reduced wages and conditions for staff and outsourced anything its able to, to cheaper suppliers. This strategy has failed to produce benefits as the airlines market share has declined dramatically while its share price has halved in two years.

And this one,

The upper echelon of the company is an old boys club, devoid of ideas, initiative or talent where promotion is based on ‘brown nosing’ and knowing the right people. Corruption and incompetence thrive within the company at all levels. Senior management despise the airline’s unionised staff and the airline suffers from an upstairs/downstairs culture.

This guy sure knows his stuff,

The Australian flag carrier once boasted an extensive international and domestic network flying to many exotic destinations; however the airline has been in rapid retreat for over a decade. One by one, the airline has withdrawn from location after location often replacing itself with its inferior subsidiary Jetstar and then codesharing on these flights.


Qantas Airways - Airline Review. Australia's declining flag carrier.
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