QANTAS (the real QANTAS) ceases all flying to New Zealand.
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standard unit,
the AKL based hosties will be offered QCCA (380), QCCD, MEL PER ADL, LHR if aussie or EC passport. some may even be offered MAM (i feel particularly sorry for those ones) there is talk that maybe 50 will be kept in base so that 2 managers there are not made redundant.
the AKL based hosties will be offered QCCA (380), QCCD, MEL PER ADL, LHR if aussie or EC passport. some may even be offered MAM (i feel particularly sorry for those ones) there is talk that maybe 50 will be kept in base so that 2 managers there are not made redundant.
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Fyfe was interviewed on ABC radio and stated that QF had annual revenues of $50 million on its AKL-LAX run (how he knows the inside info of a competitor?) and he is hoping that NZ will grab a fair chunk of it. Going up to 2 daily soon.
So why on earth did QF cut the route when it makes such good dough?
It must be a moron in charge...
So why on earth did QF cut the route when it makes such good dough?
It must be a moron in charge...
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I don't know if he is or is not a moron, what is obvious though is that his agenda has the full support of the Board, or put another way, he is implementing the Board's agenda. The question is, why are they intentionally running mainline into the ground ? (no pun intended).
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So why on earth did QF cut the route when it makes such good dough?
Jetstar will be flying that route within a year! Mark my words. They have already labelled it a "leisure" route.
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QF cut AKL-LAX
Air NZ will be happy to have less competition out of AKL. Also they run those efficient 777's. Why QF cannot compete with a A330 on what used to be a viable QF25/26 747 route speaks volumes on QF mismanagement and choice of aircraft. I don't think one can blame the consultants. So now QF are forced to run a 747 LAX to New York - that can't make money? if a A330 didn't??
I see some AirNZ 747's and 777's into MEL and can only imagine this will increase to meet up with NZ2 and NZ6, also NZ8 to SFO. Of course AirNZ is not making a lot of money at present either but IMO shows more prospects than QF. Lamentable.
I see some AirNZ 747's and 777's into MEL and can only imagine this will increase to meet up with NZ2 and NZ6, also NZ8 to SFO. Of course AirNZ is not making a lot of money at present either but IMO shows more prospects than QF. Lamentable.
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Water Wings, NZ6 not daily no flight on Tuesdays.
JQ still have 1 more A330 coming could be used for a restart of AKL-LAX but most likely be headed to new SIN flying.
JQ still have 1 more A330 coming could be used for a restart of AKL-LAX but most likely be headed to new SIN flying.
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Nearly everything you say is wrong...where do you get that from?
Kiwis on kiwi passports have been offered LHR and as we speak there are over 30 who have taken up the 2 yr basing and are nearly ready to come home. Expect another 20 to be departing for there soon.
No where near 500 crew based in AKL, never has been or will be. Currently 200+
20-30 going to QCCA MEL and some going to SH PER or ADL
AKL base WILL NOT BE OFFERED MAM
747 hasnt done the AKL/MEL/AKL for yrs....current JC 737
A330 114/141 AKL/SYD/AKL is done by JC LH with some QAL
Will soon be a 737 JC
50 being kept in base is utter BS
crew will pax to and from AKL but patterns will be increased from 11 days (currently limit in EBA) to 14-15 day patters to make viable.
AKL base will be around for a while yet
Nearly everything you say is wrong...where do you get that from?
Kiwis on kiwi passports have been offered LHR and as we speak there are over 30 who have taken up the 2 yr basing and are nearly ready to come home. Expect another 20 to be departing for there soon.
No where near 500 crew based in AKL, never has been or will be. Currently 200+
20-30 going to QCCA MEL and some going to SH PER or ADL
AKL base WILL NOT BE OFFERED MAM
747 hasnt done the AKL/MEL/AKL for yrs....current JC 737
A330 114/141 AKL/SYD/AKL is done by JC LH with some QAL
Will soon be a 737 JC
50 being kept in base is utter BS
crew will pax to and from AKL but patterns will be increased from 11 days (currently limit in EBA) to 14-15 day patters to make viable.
AKL base will be around for a while yet
After Consultants advised QF how to kill off the AKL-LAX route, Air NZ responds.
Air NZ plans North American boost
Item by australianaviation.com.au at 1:57 pm, Wednesday October 3 2012
Air New Zealand will increase flight to North America
Air New Zealand will increase capacity to San Francisco, Los Angeles and Vancouver as it moves to replace seats lost by Qantas’s exit from New Zealand-California flights earlier this year.
Air NZ will increase San Francisco services from five times weekly to daily, Los Angeles services from 12 per week to twice daily and Vancouver services from two to three times per weak during off-peak periods, the carrier said. The changes, due to take effect in April 2013, will add roughly 5,000 seats a month across the three routes.
Air NZ said the capacity increases to Los Angeles and San Francisco would make up 75 per cent of the seats lost when Qantas withdrew from the Auckland-Los Angeles route in May as part of cost-cutting measures.
Item by australianaviation.com.au at 1:57 pm, Wednesday October 3 2012
Air New Zealand will increase flight to North America
Air New Zealand will increase capacity to San Francisco, Los Angeles and Vancouver as it moves to replace seats lost by Qantas’s exit from New Zealand-California flights earlier this year.
Air NZ will increase San Francisco services from five times weekly to daily, Los Angeles services from 12 per week to twice daily and Vancouver services from two to three times per weak during off-peak periods, the carrier said. The changes, due to take effect in April 2013, will add roughly 5,000 seats a month across the three routes.
Air NZ said the capacity increases to Los Angeles and San Francisco would make up 75 per cent of the seats lost when Qantas withdrew from the Auckland-Los Angeles route in May as part of cost-cutting measures.
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Yes, QF45/46 is a B737NG... also operated by Jetconnect.
My next AKL flight is in January,in an ANZ 777.
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Didn't look properly, inexplicable,my fault, but ended up on a LCC, ala Jetconnect, when I had paid full economy
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No, it was definitely Jetconnect. Really? What is the seat pitch on them? I am only just six feet in the old measurement, but had to sit bolt upright to avoid having my knees jammed uncomfortably hard into the rear of the next row. The only other time I have had that issue was on a VB 737, booked just so I could comment when the subject was raised, Per-Bris. Never again, either. Most of my long flights are done on ANZ , previously 747-? , latterly 767-(800?) No issues. You get appreciably more space on a Skywest F-100 than that 737. Weren't Jetconnect the old Jetstar NZ branch, re-branded, with the same aircraft? Or was I just grumpy after the first red-eye leg? Edit--and the IFE quit just after take-off
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Ranmar,
Jetconnect is the old Qantas NZ operating company - now flying IFE equipped 737-800s that are all under 3 years old and delivered brand new to Jetconnect (the old 737-400s have been retired) and I believe have the same seat pitch as all other Qantas 737s... From the outside they look identical to a regular Qantas aircraft except for the flag that is missing a star.
Jetstar in NZ (grey planes with an orange star) is operated by a separate company and is definitely an LCC
Maybe just out of bed on the wrong side.
Jetconnect is the old Qantas NZ operating company - now flying IFE equipped 737-800s that are all under 3 years old and delivered brand new to Jetconnect (the old 737-400s have been retired) and I believe have the same seat pitch as all other Qantas 737s... From the outside they look identical to a regular Qantas aircraft except for the flag that is missing a star.
Jetstar in NZ (grey planes with an orange star) is operated by a separate company and is definitely an LCC
Maybe just out of bed on the wrong side.
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