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QANTAS (the real QANTAS) ceases all flying to New Zealand.

Old 22nd Feb 2012, 09:08
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standard unit,
the AKL based hosties will be offered QCCA (380), QCCD, MEL PER ADL, LHR if aussie or EC passport. some may even be offered MAM (i feel particularly sorry for those ones) there is talk that maybe 50 will be kept in base so that 2 managers there are not made redundant.
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Old 24th Feb 2012, 16:52
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Fyfe was interviewed on ABC radio and stated that QF had annual revenues of $50 million on its AKL-LAX run (how he knows the inside info of a competitor?) and he is hoping that NZ will grab a fair chunk of it. Going up to 2 daily soon.
So why on earth did QF cut the route when it makes such good dough?
It must be a moron in charge...
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Old 24th Feb 2012, 18:01
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I don't know if he is or is not a moron, what is obvious though is that his agenda has the full support of the Board, or put another way, he is implementing the Board's agenda. The question is, why are they intentionally running mainline into the ground ? (no pun intended).
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 07:27
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So why on earth did QF cut the route when it makes such good dough?
Why is every profitable route is cut by Qantas, to give to Jetstar to make Jetstar look good. "jetstar is the star performer again for Qantas"

Jetstar will be flying that route within a year! Mark my words. They have already labelled it a "leisure" route.
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 08:21
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Going up to 2 daily soon.
It's been two daily for a very long time (NZ2 and NZ6 ex AKL, NZ1 and NZ5 ex LAX). Ramping up services may see the return of NZ3/4 which used to operate in addition to the above prior to launching SFO, YVR etc.
 
Old 25th Feb 2012, 09:34
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QF cut AKL-LAX

Air NZ will be happy to have less competition out of AKL. Also they run those efficient 777's. Why QF cannot compete with a A330 on what used to be a viable QF25/26 747 route speaks volumes on QF mismanagement and choice of aircraft. I don't think one can blame the consultants. So now QF are forced to run a 747 LAX to New York - that can't make money? if a A330 didn't??

I see some AirNZ 747's and 777's into MEL and can only imagine this will increase to meet up with NZ2 and NZ6, also NZ8 to SFO. Of course AirNZ is not making a lot of money at present either but IMO shows more prospects than QF. Lamentable.
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 10:43
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Fyfe was interviewed on ABC radio and stated that QF had annual revenues of $50 million on its AKL-LAX run
QF94, have you any knowledge re that figure?
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 15:30
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Water Wings, NZ6 not daily no flight on Tuesdays.

JQ still have 1 more A330 coming could be used for a restart of AKL-LAX but most likely be headed to new SIN flying.
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 17:00
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Try

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-24/air-new-zealand-to-cut-jobs/3850582
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 17:03
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Originally Posted by 73to91 View Post
Fyfe was interviewed on ABC radio and stated that QF had annual revenues of $50 million on its AKL-LAX run
QF94, have you any knowledge re that figure?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-24/air-new-zealand-to-cut-jobs/3850582
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 20:01
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Revenues don't equal profit.............

If AKL/LAX was making money, there is no way QF would can it.
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 20:04
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Water Wings, NZ6 not daily no flight on Tuesdays.
Quite right, my bad. Schedule jumps around a bit especially with seasonal changes. I had thought it was back to being a daily service (can be at certain times of the year).
 
Old 13th Mar 2012, 04:51
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Forgive me for being cynical Qantas 787, but given their actions of late, I think they would.
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Old 13th Mar 2012, 09:02
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Indamiddle

Nearly everything you say is wrong...where do you get that from?
Kiwis on kiwi passports have been offered LHR and as we speak there are over 30 who have taken up the 2 yr basing and are nearly ready to come home. Expect another 20 to be departing for there soon.

No where near 500 crew based in AKL, never has been or will be. Currently 200+

20-30 going to QCCA MEL and some going to SH PER or ADL

AKL base WILL NOT BE OFFERED MAM

747 hasnt done the AKL/MEL/AKL for yrs....current JC 737
A330 114/141 AKL/SYD/AKL is done by JC LH with some QAL
Will soon be a 737 JC

50 being kept in base is utter BS

crew will pax to and from AKL but patterns will be increased from 11 days (currently limit in EBA) to 14-15 day patters to make viable.

AKL base will be around for a while yet
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Old 3rd Oct 2012, 08:15
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After Consultants advised QF how to kill off the AKL-LAX route, Air NZ responds.

Air NZ plans North American boost
Item by australianaviation.com.au at 1:57 pm, Wednesday October 3 2012

Air New Zealand will increase flight to North America
Air New Zealand will increase capacity to San Francisco, Los Angeles and Vancouver as it moves to replace seats lost by Qantas’s exit from New Zealand-California flights earlier this year.

Air NZ will increase San Francisco services from five times weekly to daily, Los Angeles services from 12 per week to twice daily and Vancouver services from two to three times per weak during off-peak periods, the carrier said. The changes, due to take effect in April 2013, will add roughly 5,000 seats a month across the three routes.

Air NZ said the capacity increases to Los Angeles and San Francisco would make up 75 per cent of the seats lost when Qantas withdrew from the Auckland-Los Angeles route in May as part of cost-cutting measures.
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Old 6th Oct 2012, 11:42
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Yes, QF45/46 is a B737NG... also operated by Jetconnect.
..which is the reason I will never again fly Q to NZ. I usually fly ANZ Perth-AKL-CHC. Thought I would try the more "direct"route for a change, so went for Per-Syd-CHC with Q. Didn't look properly, inexplicable,my fault, but ended up on a LCC, ala Jetconnect, when I had paid full economy. The single most uncomfortable flight I have ever had. Yes, this has been mentioned many times, the codesharing with LCC's is tarnishing Qantas' brand.

My next AKL flight is in January,in an ANZ 777.
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Old 6th Oct 2012, 14:59
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Didn't look properly, inexplicable,my fault, but ended up on a LCC, ala Jetconnect, when I had paid full economy
Ah,maybe you mean Jetstar,not Jetconnect. Jetconnect is all QF branded,with QF service,QF product,full in-flight service and the new in-seat IFE. Nothing low-cost about them....except the crews' pay
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Old 6th Oct 2012, 22:50
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No, it was definitely Jetconnect. Really? What is the seat pitch on them? I am only just six feet in the old measurement, but had to sit bolt upright to avoid having my knees jammed uncomfortably hard into the rear of the next row. The only other time I have had that issue was on a VB 737, booked just so I could comment when the subject was raised, Per-Bris. Never again, either. Most of my long flights are done on ANZ , previously 747-? , latterly 767-(800?) No issues. You get appreciably more space on a Skywest F-100 than that 737. Weren't Jetconnect the old Jetstar NZ branch, re-branded, with the same aircraft? Or was I just grumpy after the first red-eye leg? Edit--and the IFE quit just after take-off

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Old 7th Oct 2012, 04:12
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Ranmar,

Jetconnect is the old Qantas NZ operating company - now flying IFE equipped 737-800s that are all under 3 years old and delivered brand new to Jetconnect (the old 737-400s have been retired) and I believe have the same seat pitch as all other Qantas 737s... From the outside they look identical to a regular Qantas aircraft except for the flag that is missing a star.

Jetstar in NZ (grey planes with an orange star) is operated by a separate company and is definitely an LCC

Maybe just out of bed on the wrong side.

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Old 7th Oct 2012, 04:23
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Ranmar,
When was it that you travelled syd to chc?
Because since around mid year this service has actually gone back to be operated by mainline crews and aircraft.
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