How did this security breach occur?
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Sshh! The federal government are Tough On Border Security, just ask them at a press conference. 
The big dudes who were formerly spotted sitting in the corner of the departures lounge wearing raybans, tatts and reading back issues of Guns and Ammo have just got more...covert. Really covert. 
Just shut up and get irradiated, okay? Nothing to see here, no tasers on the floor, let's keep moving guys... The System Works, god damn youse! The cut price contractors on crap money and worse conditions are doing an awesome job and OTS knows best...
The big dudes who were formerly spotted sitting in the corner of the departures lounge wearing raybans, tatts and reading back issues of Guns and Ammo have just got more...covert. Really covert. Just shut up and get irradiated, okay? Nothing to see here, no tasers on the floor, let's keep moving guys... The System Works, god damn youse! The cut price contractors on crap money and worse conditions are doing an awesome job and OTS knows best...
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worrals, have you no sense of irony?
Anyone have any idea what actually went down with this incident? Haven't heard anything on the news in regard to charges being laid.
This is highly unusal given the usual hysteria in regard to aviation security events.
This is highly unusal given the usual hysteria in regard to aviation security events.
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Security Breach
Haven't been here for a long time and reading is interesting.
Reading these posts I tend to go with Flexible response, the incident has been hushed up, so obviously it was either a Marshall, a Fed or State Police. Whatever it is its a good bet is a Gov screw up. This I suspect would be ops normal, not really worth discussing any more.
As for getting by the security, I've travelled a lot recently, returned home from one overseas trip to find I had my LeathermanWave in my backpack with my computer the whole time, it was never picked up, am lucky to still have it.
Airport security is often a hit and miss afair.
Reading these posts I tend to go with Flexible response, the incident has been hushed up, so obviously it was either a Marshall, a Fed or State Police. Whatever it is its a good bet is a Gov screw up. This I suspect would be ops normal, not really worth discussing any more.
As for getting by the security, I've travelled a lot recently, returned home from one overseas trip to find I had my LeathermanWave in my backpack with my computer the whole time, it was never picked up, am lucky to still have it.
Airport security is often a hit and miss afair.
Seems to me this was probably missed by the operator of the cabin bag x-ray. Given the composition of the item though, probably an understandable although still unacceptable occurrence.
Warrals, at least someone gets it
OTS seem to have a policy of wanting to be told everything but saying nothing.
Warrals, at least someone gets it
OTS seem to have a policy of wanting to be told everything but saying nothing.
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Warrals, at least someone gets it 
If they have charged someone it could take a while to get to court. They may have decided not to prosecute, confiscated the item and given the offender a kick in the butt. IME media don't usually do follow up stories unless someone goes to court or there was violence involved, so a lack of info doesn't automatically mean there's been a cover-up.
The community is relatively well stocked with illegal tasers, pepper sprays, flick batons and similar and I assume that all the big airports still find them fairly regularly. It's the not finding it that's the problem, but no system is 100% failsafe.
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It's the not finding it that's the problem, but no system is 100% failsafe
Yes a great system we have, where prohibited items get missed in some cases.
Not today though in Sydney. Job VERY well done!
Person in front leaves deodorant, laptop and leatherman in backpack. Items identified at same time said person walks through scanner only to set it off because of large metal belt buckle.
Comes back through, removes said belt, removes items from backpack and argues about keeping the leatherman.
Meanwhile queue of frustrated travelers backs up.......... including me in full airline uniform.
Person with prohibited items gives up leatherman, goes through scanner and proceeds to collect all other items.
I pass through, no beep, nothing. Grab cap and mobile. Mr prohibited walks off without and care in the world. What do the nuppties do, pull me aside for the explosive trace
Meanwhile all the other screened passengers keep on walking.
Not happy.
Aviation in Australia is going to the dogs because of the continued medelling of government ministers whom have ABSOLUTELY no idea.
Not today though in Sydney. Job VERY well done!
Person in front leaves deodorant, laptop and leatherman in backpack. Items identified at same time said person walks through scanner only to set it off because of large metal belt buckle.
Comes back through, removes said belt, removes items from backpack and argues about keeping the leatherman.
Meanwhile queue of frustrated travelers backs up.......... including me in full airline uniform.
Person with prohibited items gives up leatherman, goes through scanner and proceeds to collect all other items.
I pass through, no beep, nothing. Grab cap and mobile. Mr prohibited walks off without and care in the world. What do the nuppties do, pull me aside for the explosive trace
Meanwhile all the other screened passengers keep on walking.
Not happy.
Aviation in Australia is going to the dogs because of the continued medelling of government ministers whom have ABSOLUTELY no idea.
Servo, I hope that you "required" a private screening - they hate it as they have to take an extra person off the scanners as two security staff are required to conduct a private screening. If every pilot/CC insisted on this, there may be a change to procedures.
If anyone knows a journo, can they request them to have a look at this thread and try to follow up. If it was a law enforcement officer breaking the rules, it should be made public plus it would be good to know what action has been taken by the company contracted to do the security screening - some additional training in Taser recognition may be required.
If anyone knows a journo, can they request them to have a look at this thread and try to follow up. If it was a law enforcement officer breaking the rules, it should be made public plus it would be good to know what action has been taken by the company contracted to do the security screening - some additional training in Taser recognition may be required.
Servo, I guess you are lucky that you didnt get the body cavity search. These guys know you are crew and that you will not risk your job by creating an uproar of protest. On the other hand, they have no idea about Joe Public individual who might actually be somebody very important and the subsequent uproar causes the security officer's job to be put on the line. It comes down to basic human nature.
My friend who came from the school of hard knocks, advises me that any time you are confronted by a bully, get in the first kick and you will be well ahead of the game.
I would think it is about time that the pilots unions worldwide gets a specialist security team together and does appropriate audits and university aided research on various airport security screening units to identify lapses in security procedures and undue and unwarranted attention to those who protest the least.
My friend who came from the school of hard knocks, advises me that any time you are confronted by a bully, get in the first kick and you will be well ahead of the game.
I would think it is about time that the pilots unions worldwide gets a specialist security team together and does appropriate audits and university aided research on various airport security screening units to identify lapses in security procedures and undue and unwarranted attention to those who protest the least.
