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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 02:42
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New NZ Regional?

So, word from the Hamilton refueller - there is a new regional operation in the wings for New Zealand. Apparently running Jetstreams and -146's.

Maybe Airwork?
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 02:51
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Oh no! not another start up to fall victim to NZ!

I have noticed that they have been doing allot of work to the old JetStreams at AKL recently & also airwork has taken owner ship of ZK-JTQ
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Could the Jetstream work be for Vincent's Wellington Air Ambo contract they've whipped from under Lifeflight's nose?

I hear it's a balls up and Vinnies not that interested anymore and Lifeflight giving a terminal date to the contract, which is due before Vinnies will be ready with their Jetstream machines...
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And I thought you were talking about the new ATR operation??
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Jetstream's and 146's can only end in tears...
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New regional? well we need one! Hope someone with some cash can buy 4/5 Avro RJ 's to operate domestic runs!!! there must be some going cheap somewhere!.
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Anyone with enough coin to afford 4/5 Avro RJ's should be smart enough to realise that it wont be enough of to build a domestic network worth having and that return on capital will be less than zero.
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I heard a few months ago there were a bunch of B1900's coming into the country. Something to do with this?
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Oh God please don't let that Muppet JG at ( EX ? ) Air National be involved....be aware....Be Very Aware !!!!! ....it WILL end in tears
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Vincent Aviation definitely not involved
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 06:23
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Those domestic a320s are so fast, smooth and spacious..it would have to be seriously cheap to grind around at fl270 at 350tas in a beat up 146..good luck!!
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I heard a few months ago there were a bunch of B1900's coming into the country. Something to do with this?
I thought 1900D's were a bit like rocking horse ****, so where would one get a bunch of these from or does the prospective new entrant (assuming there's one) already own or have access to these aircraft.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 19:22
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Further picking from the grape vine has suggested that it is Airwork looking at this but that it may be no more than a proposal at this stage.

It has apparently got some Air NZ Link managment interested, but that is probably no more than blood lust - and maybe a negotiation tactic?
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The one phrase I remember from my time at the Koru;

"New Zealand is a one and a half airline market - and Air New Zealand wants to be one and a half airlines!"
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Oh God please don't let that Muppet JG at ( EX ? ) Air National be involved....be aware....Be Very Aware !!!!! ....it WILL end in tears
Don't think the CAA would allow that, he's not on their Christmas card list.

I'd be more worried about his old chum BB being involved somehow. Now there's a walking disaster area...
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 19:16
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"New Zealand is a one and a half airline market - and Air New Zealand wants to be one and a half airlines!"
And NZ will do anything to insure that will happen.

To date they have removed...
CitiJet
Origin Pacific
Ansett NZ (Qantas NZ)
Air National
Qantas (Jet Connect)

With Jetstar barely makeing ends meet on the NZ market, maybe them too
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 20:07
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Who says Jetstar is barely making ends meet in New Zealand?? My information says quite the opposite.
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To date they have removed...
CitiJet
Origin Pacific
Ansett NZ (Qantas NZ)
Air National
Qantas (Jet Connect)
I don't agree entirely with the last three on your list.

Ansett NZ (Qantas NZ) was pretty well a victim of the Aussie management of Ansett NZ who ran Ansett NZ into the ground then tried to screw over the staff when they wanted to make to books look good when they decided to sell off Ansett NZ.

Air National did it all to themselves, so far as Air NZ was concerned Air National was a very convenient operator to call on to cover schedule disrupts so it's unlikely Air NZ had anything to do with their demise.

Qantas (Jet Connect) was moved sideways by the parent company to make room for Jetstar.

That all said, it's pretty hard for anyone to get a decent toehold in the New Zealand regional market, there isn't the critical mass to support two nationwide regional operators plus you need someone to feed off and onto for main trunk and international.
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Wow, a very short list.

There are many more than that.. going back to SPANZ at least.
Air Albatross and Pacifica would have been classics.
The very day Pacifica were due to fly out of Nelson in their Metro... a 8am departure, - there was a Mt Cook 748 sitting outside the terminal also.

I am pretty sure that is how it went. If not is was something equally as obvious and sinister.
We will see if Mr Fyfe has more integrity than his predecessors.
Some how I think business is, well business.
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Old 26th Jan 2012, 02:09
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I think Ewan Wilson could probably add the most obvious example to that list.
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