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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 04:18
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Qantas to drop daylight flights from Singapore

Apparently Qantas will discontinue the daylight QF31 from Singapore in April. Why? Surely I'm not the only SLF that prefers convenient daytime travel.
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QF5 is still available (retimed but still earlier (i.e. more daylight) that QF31) and QF1 to go via Singapore - all from 26th of March. QF1 becomes Le Dugong.
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Sorry, slip of the digit! It was QF 32, SIN to SYD I meant to ask about. There are many Australian expats in Singapore who prefer a daylight flight and will now need to use Singapore Air because after April QANTAS doesn't seem to have daylight flights from SIN to anywhere in Oz. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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There are many Australian expats in Singapore who prefer a daylight flight and will now need to use Singapore Air because after April QANTAS doesn't seem to have daylight flights from SIN to anywhere in Oz.
Which would suit Qantas management's plan perfectly.
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There's still the 0905 departure from SIN to PER, QF72?
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If QF72 will be relying on local joining traffic and does not have feed from the UK., then I suggest that it will soon be cut! What are these genii thinking,assuming they are capable of thought?
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Seems to be another step in closing down International, lets wait for the announcement re Jetstar Asia.

Will someone please turn the lights off.
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Qantas has stated that the QF72 is moving to a late evening departure ex-SIN.
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Another gifted route to no star ?.
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OMG yes QF72 will have no connecting traffic from anywhere, including Asia from Interline partners and 3K!

SQ is now up to 24 weekly SINPER during the summer and will do year round 3 daily now instead of dropping to 17 weekly in Northern Summer. They've also massively increased the J capacity by putting in the 772 for 2 of the flights instead of the 333.

I remember 10 years ago there was a QF morning flight SINMEL, and it was operated by a 767. QF also operated SIN-HKG, SIN-DPS, SIN-CDG, SIN-FCO and SIN-CGK.
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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 10:38
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Surely I'm not the only SLF that prefers convenient daytime travel.
Then why not just take SQ?
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Welcome to Melbourne

Being a regular traveler into Melbourne from Singapore, QF does not make the grade. After business there why would I take an overnighter when a daylight is available on SQ.
Competition is good, but when there is only one daylight choice, QF loses, unfortunately.

And don't tell me going via Sydney is a viable option.
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Qantas management choose not to compete as part of their grand plan to destroy International from within.

It ought to be pretty obvious and well understood by now
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Why does it seem that Qantas wants to be no Qantas??? What the hell is going on???
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Calm down everyone, the route to go in the next month or so will be FRA. Then AJs plan to transform international will be in great shape.
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Originally Posted by ozaub
Sorry, slip of the digit! It was QF 32, SIN to SYD I meant to ask about. There are many Australian expats in Singapore who prefer a daylight flight and will now need to use Singapore Air because after April QANTAS doesn't seem to have daylight flights from SIN to anywhere in Oz. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ask yourself this question. Are there 2450 (7x350) people a week who prefer a daylight flight? It looks like SQ has a 773 and 330 daylight flight but how many of those are feed from Europe and Asia

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Being a regular traveler into Melbourne from Singapore, QF does not make the grade. After business there why would I take an overnighter when a daylight is available on SQ.
What time do you finish business in order to make the 1010 departure of SQ217?. I'd expect most business travellers would take the overnight flight, not lose a business day and get to spend an extra day with family.
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In reply to Smiling Monkey at #11 there's only one reason I choose QF over SQ - money! QF usually charges less than SQ for a return fare SIN to SYD. And BTW QANTAS charges significantly less SIN to SYD return than SYD to SIN, presumeably because it is easier to exploit home market. Still, if all else fails I can fly AirAsia KUL to OOL daytime on a Wednesday, sometimes for under $100.
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Calm down everyone, the route to go in the next month or so will be FRA.
So they're going to close down one of the routes with the highest load factors?? Only heard a year ago they wanted to increase flights there via Shanghai?

I had heard that closing down JNB was on the cards. If they cant make money on a route where they have a monopoly, then the company is truly stuffed.

On the other hand, who is going to prop up JQ Asia and International behind the scenes?
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 01:36
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QF charges less than SQ for SIN-SYD because SQ offers 4 flights across the day (0700, 0930, 2035 and the one after midnight). QF+BA will soon offer 3 flights to SYD leaving within like 20 minutes of each other - so from a schedule purpose it just means QF+BA offers one timing from SIN to SYD (there is no difference between a 8pm and 8.10pm departure to the consumer.

Would QF really drop FRA? Didn't this route have one of the highest load factors across their international network? Or have the massive capacity injections by SQ and LH into Germany killed QF? (Addition of 1x 77W and 1x A340 everyday to MUC + increasing SINFRA to A380 by both LH and SQ)
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It's on the Qf website, QF 72 now arrives 440am into Perth.. joy.. not
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