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Old 19th Oct 2011, 08:28
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Will the Mt Cook guys get a payrise for the new -600s?
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 08:51
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Fat chance...
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One report event suggests that the branding hasn't been decided yet.

A domestic version of Freedom anyone?
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 09:02
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Even if (hopefully) the 600's are operated by Mt. Cook crew, the pay will not change as the contract specifies weight bands of aircraft, and the 600 and the 500 fall into the same pay bracket in the contract, so there would be no change (unless one was to be negotiated of course).
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 09:03
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Will the Mt Cook guys get a payrise for the new -600s?
The -600 doesn't allow for any extra payload, and therefore continues to sit in the weight band that determines salary, so no.

And as is already been said, Mt Cook are not the automatic receivers of new toys similar to the their own..... yet.
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 09:43
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Air NZ unveils $340m plane spend-up


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One of Air NZ's existing ATR aircraft.

Air New Zealand said today it would spend up to $340 million on 12 new ATR72-600 aircraft for its regional fleet.
The company said it would buy seven of the new planes, with an option for an additional five.
It currently owns 11 ATR72-500s.
Chief Executive Officer Rob Fyfe said today's announcement, which was subject to contract signing, would significantly boost air service connections to regional New Zealand.
"This order potentially doubles the size of Air New Zealand's ATR fleet and will put a further two million seats into the New Zealand regional market annually. For our customers that will mean a big increase in the number of business timed seats and seriously cheap grabaseat fares we have on regional routes every day."
The first of the 68 seat ATR72-600 aircraft will be delivered to Air New Zealand in October next year followed by a second in December.
Two will arrive in 2013 and another each year for three years.
"At a time when other businesses have shown little appetite to invest significantly in assets, particularly where revenue is derived from regional New Zealand, we have not waivered in our belief in the long-term strength of the domestic economy," said Fyfe.

"Thanks to the purchase of larger aircraft and the lowering of fares we have seen regional passenger numbers increase by an average 5.6 per cent annually since 2003, resulting in our regional airlines carrying 54 per cent more passengers to 4.3 million in the year ended September.
"Today's significant capital investment also signals that we will be upping our promotion of key regional centres at home and overseas as we will need to encourage even more people to fill those two million more seats coming on stream over the next few years."
Fyfe said the new-generation ATR72-600 was the most efficient aircraft in its class and features a new cabin layout with larger overhead bins, improved seating and advanced cockpit.
Air New Zealand's ability to maintain services during inclement weather to and from destinations like Queenstown, Rotorua and Wellington will improve with the better navigation technology.
Airline Group General Manager Australasia Airline Bruce Parton said the new plane gave it the means to "up-gauge" its Q300 operated routes that would require more capacity in the coming years.
This in turn, would release Q300 aircraft to up-gauge on some Beech 1900D operated routes, enabling it to look at new "start-up" routes.
"So there is benefit in bringing in the larger turbo-props and cascading growth down throughout our regional operation," he said.
It was likely that some routes currently serviced by the smaller Q300, such as Nelson-Auckland and New Plymouth-Auckland, would see this larger turbo-prop in use.
"It is likely that the new fleet will be Auckland-based, providing us with an excellent spread of regional aircraft including bases in Christchurch, Nelson and Hamilton. This will give us a solid platform for regional growth particularly into and out of Auckland."
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 00:11
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I hope everyone voted yes for MECA

Hopefully they don't start a new a new group called 'Propstar' and shaft us all
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 01:17
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One report event suggests that the branding hasn't been decided yet.

A domestic version of Freedom anyone?
Virgin New Zealand operated by Skywest

NZ buys the aircraft then leases them to Skywest, who then runs the flights on behalf of Virgin New Zealand who codeshares back to NZ
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 17:18
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NZ buys the aircraft then leases them to Skywest, who then runs the flights on behalf of Virgin New Zealand who codeshares back to NZ
It does sound complicated, But I think it could work
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 19:32
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Not complicated just exactly like jetstar flying domestically in NZ.

All three AirNZ links are about to start negotiating. MECA here we come if it not too late now.

It is interesting listening to discussions in crew rooms. If this goes to another operator then look out the rest because within the not too distant future you will also have your work taken/transferred from you.

I would have thought that spending $300mil they would already have plans in place, but then the board did sign off on purchasing 2nd half of Ansett with no due diligence.

Time will tell it always does.
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 22:36
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Hey, I have an idea, paint them bright yellow, call the new airline 'Freedom', employ the pilots on a new 'industry standard' contract and then make the pilots pay for their own type ratings. The tell the other 3 link carriers that they are just way too expensive and that the pilot wages are 'choking' the huge expansion plans that could have been for their airline. Let is run for a few years before then absorbing the whole lot back into the main group. Sounds like a winner to me
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Old 23rd Oct 2011, 23:58
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Not sure what MECA means, but I highly doubt there would ever be all 3 link pilot groups on one contract. AirNZ would never risk being subjected to industrial action by all of its moneymakers all at once.

Shambleton often threatened the Air Nelson pilots with the consequences of no Saab replacement if they were seen as "too expensive".
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Old 24th Oct 2011, 00:26
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It is a 'multi employer collective agreement', useful where the bulk of an agreement would be applicable across all three companies. Just with appendices which outline differences between the three. Will be interesting to watch, it does rely on the three different pilot groups agreeing on a lot of different issues. There in probably lies the problem when it comes to pilots, we are a suspicious bunch and always feel that there 'other' group is giving us the raw end of the deal some how.
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Old 24th Oct 2011, 01:25
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AH

The very name of it does not not sound like a win win to me. Cant see the pilots going for it then. What are the carrots?

What then also for the 3 seniority lists? (or 4 for that matter)
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 08:30
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Air NZ gets the keys to new plane

10:45 AM Wednesday Oct 31

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NZ's new ATR 72-600 regional aircraft.

Air New Zealand has taken delivery of the first of its new ATR 72-600 regional aircraft, this one painted in the all black livery.
The airline has a contract for seven of the the French-made 68-seat ATR 72-600 aircraft, plus options for another five, in a deal worth more than $320 million.
Former All Black Luke McAllister was at Toulouse to witness the handover overnight.
Air New Zealand chief executive Rob Fyfe said the aircraft handover was a significant milestone in the airline's ongoing commitment to growing the key domestic sector.
The order potentially doubles the size of Air New Zealand's ATR fleet and will put two million additional regional seats into the market, said Fyfe.
"We firmly believe in the importance of the domestic market and the long-term strength of the New Zealand economy."
The first ATR 72-600 aircraft will enter Air New Zealand subsidiary Mount Cook's fleet in mid-November.
Mount Cook general manager Sarah Williamson said the new ATRs will allow the airline to further expand its domestic operations with increased frequency and extra capacity as well as to service new ports.
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The first aircraft will service Nelson and New Plymouth in addition to the ports where the ATR 72-500 currently flies.
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