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As expected I am reliably informed that the Virgin Cadetship will be facilitated by Flight Training Adelaide.
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Do you suppose that if DJ will fund all of a cadets training (Inc accommodation, meals etc) that all normal direct entry recruits will have their endorsements paid for too?
Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
It seems a bit unfair to the guys who have done.... (let's say, "the hard road").... Having to pay for training, move away, and do the GA road... Then to get a job with DJ and foot 10's of thousands of George washingtons.
Im not bagging cadet schemes- they have their place. But there's an unfair gap there....
Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
It seems a bit unfair to the guys who have done.... (let's say, "the hard road").... Having to pay for training, move away, and do the GA road... Then to get a job with DJ and foot 10's of thousands of George washingtons.
Im not bagging cadet schemes- they have their place. But there's an unfair gap there....
So if you are riddled with debt and given a poorer salary the cadet scheme is no good. If it pays for the majority of the costs, it's no good.
Personally I think this is a great move. They are only taking 8 a year and the first recruits won't be joining Virgin 'mainline' for at least 4 years so this isn't a flyby night thing like Jetstars has been seen to be.
If we are going to have cadet schemes this seems to be the way to do it!!
Personally I think this is a great move. They are only taking 8 a year and the first recruits won't be joining Virgin 'mainline' for at least 4 years so this isn't a flyby night thing like Jetstars has been seen to be.
If we are going to have cadet schemes this seems to be the way to do it!!
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could you provide me a link to where you got this information from.
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Do you suppose that if DJ will fund all of a cadets training (Inc accommodation, meals etc) that all normal direct entry recruits will have their endorsements paid for too?
Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
It seems a bit unfair to the guys who have done.... (let's say, "the hard road").... Having to pay for training, move away, and do the GA road... Then to get a job with DJ and foot 10's of thousands of George washingtons.
Im not bagging cadet schemes- they have their place. But there's an unfair gap there....
Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
It seems a bit unfair to the guys who have done.... (let's say, "the hard road").... Having to pay for training, move away, and do the GA road... Then to get a job with DJ and foot 10's of thousands of George washingtons.
Im not bagging cadet schemes- they have their place. But there's an unfair gap there....
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Do you suppose that if DJ will fund all of a cadets training (Inc accommodation, meals etc) that all normal direct entry recruits will have their endorsements paid for too?
Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
It seems a bit unfair to the guys who have done.... (let's say, "the hard road").... Having to pay for training, move away, and do the GA road... Then to get a job with DJ and foot 10's of thousands of George washingtons.
Im not bagging cadet schemes- they have their place. But there's an unfair gap there....
Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
It seems a bit unfair to the guys who have done.... (let's say, "the hard road").... Having to pay for training, move away, and do the GA road... Then to get a job with DJ and foot 10's of thousands of George washingtons.
Im not bagging cadet schemes- they have their place. But there's an unfair gap there....
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Qantas used to pick up the whole tab, paid their guys under training and subsidised their secondment in GA.
TAA also picked up the tab and paid their cadets.
I don't think either of them provided accomodation.
Lamentably, the mongrel beancounting a'holes running companies at the moment are hell bent on exploiting those mugs who are prepared to pay for the privelege.
Perhaps Mr Borghetti is a bit more astute and realises the benefits in choosing from the whole field, rather than the select, under-motivated, few that can tap daddy's resources.
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Qantas used to pick up the whole tab, paid their guys under training and subsidised their secondment in GA.
TAA also picked up the tab and paid their cadets.
I don't think either of them provided accomodation.
Lamentably, the mongrel beancounting a'holes running companies at the moment are hell bent on exploiting those mugs who are prepared to pay for the privelege.
Perhaps Mr Borghetti is a bit more astute and realises the benefits in choosing from the whole field, rather than the select, under-motivated, few that can tap daddy's resources.
Maui
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The announcement has been made regarding the Virgin Cadetship. Flight Training Adelaide has been named as the training provider, with the first course scheduled to start in Dec 2012.
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Job details - Virgin Australia Cadet Pilot Program 2012 | Virgin Australia
good news for any potential cadets.
good news for any potential cadets.
Don't get your hopes up too high.
8 cadets a year is not even going to make a dent on the recruitment and retention of pilots so i smell a rat.
My tip is that this will just be a vehicle for our beloved Mr T to select a few minority group candidates and internal selections so he can wave the Virgin flag down at Canberra.
8 cadets a year is not even going to make a dent on the recruitment and retention of pilots so i smell a rat.
My tip is that this will just be a vehicle for our beloved Mr T to select a few minority group candidates and internal selections so he can wave the Virgin flag down at Canberra.
Just was starting to fill out the online application and noticed that they want you to have completed year 12, i finish year 12 in 3 months time.
Does anyone know if i can still fill out the online application? (I called up Virgin and the HR manager on the phone wasnt sure
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Does anyone know if i can still fill out the online application? (I called up Virgin and the HR manager on the phone wasnt sure
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Not even qantas paid for a cadets training?
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pull-up-terrain - I found the EBA from the link provided by DancingDog. There's lots of useful information within.
I also am finishing Year 12 in 3 months and was filling out the application today.
I sent an e-mail to the e-mail address provided on the FAQ area of the information page ([email protected]) stating that I will have completed Year 12 prior to the commencement of the cadetship. I hope for the best!
I further called Head Office / HR such as you. The lady who answered seemed completely unaware of the program even being announced yet! She gasped in surprise! haha. But unfortunately couldn't answer my question. However, she stated that if I do not get a response from the cadet e-mail address shortly (Don't know what shortly means - will wait a few days) to e-mail [email protected] which appears to be the usual e-mail they use anyway. I'm unsure whether to e-mail that address if I don't get a reply however as it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the cadetship.
I shall let you know when I get a reply and what they say.
I also am finishing Year 12 in 3 months and was filling out the application today.
I sent an e-mail to the e-mail address provided on the FAQ area of the information page ([email protected]) stating that I will have completed Year 12 prior to the commencement of the cadetship. I hope for the best!
I further called Head Office / HR such as you. The lady who answered seemed completely unaware of the program even being announced yet! She gasped in surprise! haha. But unfortunately couldn't answer my question. However, she stated that if I do not get a response from the cadet e-mail address shortly (Don't know what shortly means - will wait a few days) to e-mail [email protected] which appears to be the usual e-mail they use anyway. I'm unsure whether to e-mail that address if I don't get a reply however as it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the cadetship.
I shall let you know when I get a reply and what they say.
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G'day Keg,
I think it was shortly after that, cadets were to pay for their own training (from memory in the early 2000's, it was quoted about $85,000)
I think it was shortly after that, cadets were to pay for their own training (from memory in the early 2000's, it was quoted about $85,000)
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Originally Posted by JayG_Bull
The lady who answered seemed completely unaware of the program even being announced yet! She gasped in surprise! haha
Left hand - meet right hand, welcome to aviation JayG.
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Originally Posted by TheWholeEnchilada
Did anyone tell you the one about the Airline that simultaneously employed pilots and made other redundant on the same day?
Did anyone tell you the one about the Airline that simultaneously employed pilots and made other redundant on the same day?
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Jay, people don't care about that, as long as they get their 299 return to Bali for their Bogan Wedding, they don't care. Good luck with the application
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JayG, yes it happened quite a while ago, in an era of great economic & industrial turbulence. The point is that aviation is full of paradoxes, which your anecdote demonstrates.
"A long time ago in a Galaxy far away..." dates the decade for you.
Prophetic words from George Lucas...
"A long time ago in a Galaxy far away..." dates the decade for you.
Prophetic words from George Lucas...
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Bad news...
Received an e-mail from the Virgin Australia Cadet Recruitment Team and unfortunately you must have passed Year 12 at the time of application.
I'm quite disappointed, but can't really do much more if they say no.
So unfortunately, I and pull-up-terrain are out of this years opportunities. But I have been advised to apply for next years program as they will be running more in the future. I did send them another e-mail asking how often they plan to run cadet programs with a few further questions.
Thanks for the good luck j3piperclub. Better luck next year hey?
It's a real shame Enchilada, disappointing. Even at my "young" age I still recall flying being a lot better - even as a passenger.
I suppose there is no chance of it changing any time soon? I guess I'm dreaming now lol
Received an e-mail from the Virgin Australia Cadet Recruitment Team and unfortunately you must have passed Year 12 at the time of application.
I'm quite disappointed, but can't really do much more if they say no.
So unfortunately, I and pull-up-terrain are out of this years opportunities. But I have been advised to apply for next years program as they will be running more in the future. I did send them another e-mail asking how often they plan to run cadet programs with a few further questions.
Thanks for the good luck j3piperclub. Better luck next year hey?
It's a real shame Enchilada, disappointing. Even at my "young" age I still recall flying being a lot better - even as a passenger.
I suppose there is no chance of it changing any time soon? I guess I'm dreaming now lol