Support for Qantas Staff
Ghandi Award
I nominate Framer for the inaugural Ghandi Award for peace, love and turning the other cheek.....
Wonder if he would still be in the frame to win if he actually had to live his principles?
Wonder if he would still be in the frame to win if he actually had to live his principles?
I mean, seriously, the alternative is the rubbish we've seen before with threatening phone calls and physical intimidation etc, we've seen that before and it didn't get us anywhere. If you think it's worth it and ok then I respect that, it's just that I reckon we should learn from it.
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Framer, the only verbal threats and acts of intimidation I've seen so far are actually towards the ones taking the industrial action. The intimidation traffic, as a whole, has been largely one-way and oddly enough, most guys are refusing to buckle and also quite rightly refusing to retaliate beyond what is authorised by PIA, no matter what the temptation.
Furthermore, my reference to "ostracising" (if that's what you call not particularly wanting to socialise with an individual) was directed towards specific types of individuals. For example, the one who quoted the following exact words under his real name in a private message on an internal QF pilots message board, in reference to not joining the industrial action and not particularly caring what happened to more junior pilots (I have a copy of it BTW):
There are certain words to describe people like the above which cannot be written on these forums. These are precise examples of individuals with whom I'd choose not to socialise. But apparently my attitude is an immature one? What, shall I send him a nice christmas card instead? Invite him round for dinner? 
Furthermore, my reference to "ostracising" (if that's what you call not particularly wanting to socialise with an individual) was directed towards specific types of individuals. For example, the one who quoted the following exact words under his real name in a private message on an internal QF pilots message board, in reference to not joining the industrial action and not particularly caring what happened to more junior pilots (I have a copy of it BTW):
Enjoy the rest of your career. What's left of it. Ha ha ha ha.
I understand that, but thats not what the conversation is based on, it was based on someone not wearing a tie.
I'd remember that this is a career/job. It is worth fighting for but you're not going to freeze to death next week. Your childeren are'nt going to starve to death. The water in the well (tap) is still fresh. It can be a whole lot worse, so there's no need to compromise your character or manners.
Anyway, I'm gunna bow out of this now, it's not my fight. I hope you guys get the conditions that you're after. I hope that the corporate rot is removed and you can go about your jobs without being attacked from above. I mainly hope that you don't turn in on each other. Play your own game and if someone is not quite on the same page then so be it, If you focus on them you're focussing on a p1ssy little sideshow and wasting energy while making yourself look bad. Just my opinion after seeing how people can lose perspective.
Cheers, Framer.
I'd remember that this is a career/job. It is worth fighting for but you're not going to freeze to death next week. Your childeren are'nt going to starve to death. The water in the well (tap) is still fresh. It can be a whole lot worse, so there's no need to compromise your character or manners.
Anyway, I'm gunna bow out of this now, it's not my fight. I hope you guys get the conditions that you're after. I hope that the corporate rot is removed and you can go about your jobs without being attacked from above. I mainly hope that you don't turn in on each other. Play your own game and if someone is not quite on the same page then so be it, If you focus on them you're focussing on a p1ssy little sideshow and wasting energy while making yourself look bad. Just my opinion after seeing how people can lose perspective.
Cheers, Framer.
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Management must just love this blog. I don't care if you are a Pilot, Engineer or Bag snatcher, you are cactus if you don't stick together against the common enemy, and its one hell of a enemy. Close ranks fella's otherwise you are buggered.
There's some additional support rolling in Executive pay: the high cost of market failure
the support is in the comments posted at the bottom.
the support is in the comments posted at the bottom.
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In my increasingly frustrated efforts to show some support for QF staff, why doesn't someone involved seek a way for non shareholders and non staff to show that support at or outside the AGM?
I would willingly give my time but don't have the resources to organise anything.
Any ideas?????
I would willingly give my time but don't have the resources to organise anything.
Any ideas?????
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qantas l/h cabin crew have recently been getting support from an unexpected area. borgetti has already recruited a number of crew who took the package. he asked qantas for a mailing list of crew but was knocked back. he is looking to boost the number of senior crew on board, particularly towards cabin managers.
If you have signed the petition on qantaspilots.com then you should have received an email providing information about how you can vote against resolutions at the AGM. There is a link to qantasshareholders.com
If you vote online then make sure you print out a receipt of your vote after it is registered. There is a "Receipt" button.
If you vote online then make sure you print out a receipt of your vote after it is registered. There is a "Receipt" button.
