PNG Govt. (Air Niugini) buys APNG
NCD,
Correct... and where to start...???
Pilots on tours vs. pilots who can't get tours, staff travel, seniority, housing, salaries and the list goes on...
Mergers in the airline industry - no matter what size - are always a HUGE mess.
AB
Correct... and where to start...???
Pilots on tours vs. pilots who can't get tours, staff travel, seniority, housing, salaries and the list goes on...
Mergers in the airline industry - no matter what size - are always a HUGE mess.
AB
Last edited by AQIS Boigu; 29th Sep 2011 at 13:09.
I don't believe that PX really wanted this 'merger' ; rather it is a political move and probably not a bad one at that. The Wilds are unlikely to be getting the return on their investment that they want, so would be reluctant to pump their own money into APNG, even though they still hold (I think) about 40% of the airline's stock. But something has to be done to save the superannuation and private investment in APNG - it can't be allowed to fail.
Fastfokker you have it in one. Two AOCs. APNG will most likely just operate the Otters - and more of them - on their existing AOC. That's where the real risk is, and if the rumour is true that the Government will justify their acquisition by opening up a lot of small disused airstrips that were once served by Talair, the risk will only get worse. They won't want to spoil PX's good record.
The Dash 8's will likely end up in PX colours and crewed to their SOP under the PX AOC. It does not make sense to duplicate effort in Check & Training, manuals, maintenance etc.
Jobs most at risk are probably where duplication can readily be cut out - commercial, HR, finance, QA, SMS, IT etc.
Finally, the previous analogy of Jetstar versus Qantas is not correct in relation to pilots, in my opinion (though see above in relation to APNG middle and senior management - they're GONE). There is already enough of a pilot shortage in PNG for pilots with even small balls to totally jack up against any attempt to worsen conditions. Pilots with bigger balls can probably leverage modest improvements, given that the Government's worst nightmare now will be to see aircraft parked for lack of crews.
Fastfokker you have it in one. Two AOCs. APNG will most likely just operate the Otters - and more of them - on their existing AOC. That's where the real risk is, and if the rumour is true that the Government will justify their acquisition by opening up a lot of small disused airstrips that were once served by Talair, the risk will only get worse. They won't want to spoil PX's good record.
The Dash 8's will likely end up in PX colours and crewed to their SOP under the PX AOC. It does not make sense to duplicate effort in Check & Training, manuals, maintenance etc.
Jobs most at risk are probably where duplication can readily be cut out - commercial, HR, finance, QA, SMS, IT etc.
Finally, the previous analogy of Jetstar versus Qantas is not correct in relation to pilots, in my opinion (though see above in relation to APNG middle and senior management - they're GONE). There is already enough of a pilot shortage in PNG for pilots with even small balls to totally jack up against any attempt to worsen conditions. Pilots with bigger balls can probably leverage modest improvements, given that the Government's worst nightmare now will be to see aircraft parked for lack of crews.
Last edited by Mach E Avelli; 1st Oct 2011 at 00:24.
If there turns out to be a surplus of Dash8s whats to say that a few aren't farmed off to Skytrans before the deal goes through?
As far as competition goes Travel Air could be in the box seat if they ever get up and running.
NCD I totally agree with you about a load of training and checking to be done in relation to SOPs, even the fleet commonality could be a headache for PX with some of the APNG machines having non efis and Noahs Ark FMSs.
Boigu, re safety records not comparable they are because both companies operate in the same environment. I will even go further to suggest why don't we compare Hevilifts Twin Otter safety record to APNGs ! Completely the same style of operation there.
As far as competition goes Travel Air could be in the box seat if they ever get up and running.
NCD I totally agree with you about a load of training and checking to be done in relation to SOPs, even the fleet commonality could be a headache for PX with some of the APNG machines having non efis and Noahs Ark FMSs.
Boigu, re safety records not comparable they are because both companies operate in the same environment. I will even go further to suggest why don't we compare Hevilifts Twin Otter safety record to APNGs ! Completely the same style of operation there.
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Before anyone starts a p!ss!ng contest about safety, best to consider relative hours flown and the bigger picture.
Qantas reckons they are pretty hot because they never crashed a jet. Well they have crashed a jet, and it shouda been a write off but to preserve their reputation they rebuilt it so they could call the whole sad deal an incident. United Airlines crashed a few but based on hours or bums moved their safety record is near as good as the best.
What was the name of the company who's helo took out 10 in Indon a few months ago? Maybe the kid had another name but same Mom and Pop.
Qantas reckons they are pretty hot because they never crashed a jet. Well they have crashed a jet, and it shouda been a write off but to preserve their reputation they rebuilt it so they could call the whole sad deal an incident. United Airlines crashed a few but based on hours or bums moved their safety record is near as good as the best.
What was the name of the company who's helo took out 10 in Indon a few months ago? Maybe the kid had another name but same Mom and Pop.
Mach 12 I thought about that when I wrote my last and I didn't want to bring that up out of respect for the pilot concerned. Having said this he wasn't employed by Hevilift at the time of the incident.
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WW,
APNG and Hevilifts Twotter operations are not the same at all.
Hevilift have self imposed length and gradient restrictions that preclude a lot of the strips that APNG take their Twotters to.
MAF and Southwest go to the most 'hardcore' strips, APNG are a little more conservative and most of the strips Hevilift visit could be used by a Chieftain.
APNG and Hevilifts Twotter operations are not the same at all.
Hevilift have self imposed length and gradient restrictions that preclude a lot of the strips that APNG take their Twotters to.
MAF and Southwest go to the most 'hardcore' strips, APNG are a little more conservative and most of the strips Hevilift visit could be used by a Chieftain.
