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Old 18th Aug 2011, 09:24
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First Virgin ATR72 has landed

Landed BNE a few mins ago as Southern Cross 1131 VH-FVH.
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Anyone know who will be maintaining these on the East Coast? Will Skywest set up an outstation? The only maintenance organisation with ATR experience in BNE is Toll.
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Just googled VH-FVH
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nice, makes you want to change jobs really. Wonder what the T&C's are like.
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Anyone know who will be maintaining these on the East Coast? Will Skywest set up an outstation? The only maintenance organisation with ATR experience in BNE is Toll.
From what I've heard it's Toll
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Just reading an ad now, Skywest are looking for cabin crew based out of Canberra, one of the new runs for the ATR's. Read into that what you will......
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skywest EBA as they are Skywest pilots
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Skywest are looking for cabin crew based out of Canberra, one of the new runs for the ATR's. Read into that what you will......
Canberra is the next base. Likely next pilot recruitment will be for Canberra as well.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 22:18
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Skywest Pilot Agreement 2010

I'm guessing there will be a side letter to cover the ATR72 payscale seeing as the seating capacity is 56% more than the F50.
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I'm guessing there will be a side letter to cover the ATR72 payscale seeing as the seating capacity is 56% more than the F50.
That is one interpretation. Unfortunately not the one that Skywest management endorses.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 23:09
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Yea it was just a guess. Are they just going to go by the F50 payscale?
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I heard that it was F50 + 5%.
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A previous thread went into some detail RE: the ATR T&C's. Amazingly (but not surprisingly) Management didn't even approach the pilot group or the TWU untill the eleventh hour, and only then when it became apparent that the assumed contract would not be accepted!

In a nutshell, the Skywest pilots asked for F50 T&C's + 10 %. The final deal as I understand was a compromise, but at least it was negotiated. Something that management incrediably thought unecessary!

Good luck to all the boys and girls. I hope the guys at the top manage the East Coast operation better than they handled the initial industrial issues.
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Old 19th Aug 2011, 03:56
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It's still better than the ridiculously crap 7% the Q400 drivers get from the 200/300 @ Qlink for an aircraft that has double the seating capacity of the 200 series.
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dollar per seat?

does it really matter how many seats the thing has? If we were to look at the work rate on say a Regional Turbo Prop going into some of the worst CTAF areas and dodging micro lights, helicopters and the like, little or no support on the ground, few if any navaids and marginal lighting, the REgional RPT Turbo driver SHOULD be on $150K/yr whilst the A320 guys blowing in from ILS to ILS SHOULD be on the $85-$100k. Lets put it in to some perspective here. D8-200/300, same plane and the D8-400 a newer version. they still operate into the same places. Tell me why the Q400 drivers should get paid more. Sure, they are all underpaid, but it's all arse about, IMHO
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KRUSTY 34,

Sorry to tell you but your a little off course with that one.

My info is that the company failed to negotiate at any level. The pilot group were asking for the F50 + 5% on base salary only.

To date i believe there has been no deal done, as it has gone to Fair Work Aust.
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Bigbrother; I hear what you're saying and day to day I think you are correct but....with honest reflection, the few times that I've been pushed closest to the edge of my abilities of mental capacity have all been in jets. I don't know why that is the case, but it's how it's worked out for me.
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Pay Scales

Have to agree with BigBrother. It is generally accepted that the heaviest workload of any flight is usually in the departure/arrival phases of the flight with the enroute phase being much less intense. Those crews who fly multi-sector days into and out of regional airports, mostly uncontrolled, have a much harder "day/night in the office" than the long haul crews who, by and large, fly single sector flights and get reasonable layover breaks. As for the relative pay scales there is justification for differential between turbo-prop and jet crews because most outfits have a progression system and thus more experience before getting on the jets. At the end of the day all pilots are paid what the company will agree to and it is always an option for the crew member to "vote with their feet".
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So domestic jets only fly from ILS to ILS in CTA
Didn't know that one....
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