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'Threat to business'.......how about $200,000,000.oo in fines and still counting..........FFS, the staff do a great job, best they can, so do middle management........the greatest threat to the existence of QF is senior managenent and the board, and guess what, The Emperor has no clothes......everyone knows it because (excuse my mixed metaphors)
you can fool ALL of the people only Some of the time......
you can fool ALL of the people only Some of the time......
Another own goal by Qantas
Maybe just a coincidence, but putting up a website explaining how bad they are at managing an airline seems to have corresponded to a 5 cent slide in the share price.
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Maybe just a coincidence, but putting up a website explaining how bad they are at managing an airline seems to have corresponded to a 5 cent slide in the share price.
Around 2% was sliced off the share market overnight and make no mistake, Obama was absolutely right this week decribing the US problems as 'economic armageddon'. Shares in airlines are heading in one direction folks......
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How did Qantas manage to make record profits a few years ago in such a declining market?
And it wasn't like the executives bonuses and salaries were declining to match the said market share.
And it wasn't like the executives bonuses and salaries were declining to match the said market share.
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We are the only major airline in the world to conduct aircraft heavy maintenance in Australia. In contrast, our competitors, such as Virgin, Emirates and Etihad, do all of their heavy maintenance offshore.
Considering they are ALL foreign owned airlines,I am not surprised they don't do their heavy maintenance in Australia. In fact, they ALL do their heavy maintenance offshore,IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.
Plus the site should differentiate between Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Australia when making claims on their site.
Considering they are ALL foreign owned airlines,I am not surprised they don't do their heavy maintenance in Australia. In fact, they ALL do their heavy maintenance offshore,IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.
Plus the site should differentiate between Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Australia when making claims on their site.
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How did Qantas manage to make record profits a few years ago in such a declining market?
And it wasn't like the executives bonuses and salaries were declining to match the said market share.
And it wasn't like the executives bonuses and salaries were declining to match the said market share.
Gold chart below (2000 -2011) C/O kitco
The above jump in gold value has increased about as much as QF executive bonuses !! Within 12 months gold will be $2000.00 per ounce, what will QF's share price be ?
Tailwheel, you are an astute individual, would you be able to bookmark a calendar diary entry and we can re-visit this thread in 12 months time, just for sh#ts and giggles ??
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My Super lost $5,000 in the last three days, thanks to the impact of the US economy and incompetance of US politicians - that appear to be even more incompetant than Australian politicians, if that is remotely possible! 
Tipped the maximum $100K into my super in the last two years, over 30% of which has disappeared into roof batts, school halls and other frivolous Government projects (via the Super input tax) and into stock losses - including Qantas shares - that my Super fund invests in.
Retirement just moved another decade away!
I simply do not understand how any company can publicly confess:
Then blame it on three unions whose members have no say in deciding the factors which must have contributed to that decline? 
We are not talking profit or yield here (which would be impacted by operating costs including staff salaries) but bare, factual, competitive market performance which is what Management are employed to exploit, build and grow.
Is that not a blatant management confession of their own failure to adequately manage and grow their business? Surely the Australian public are not so gullible they buy the cr@p that loss of market share is a direct result of unions asking for job security for their Members?
I am not a union man but I certainly understand QF staff and their union's desire to ensure our national icon airline always calls Australia home.
Qantas last share sale $1.795. Cheap as chips, go buy a few!
J P Morgan and HSBC must be feeling investor heat for their QAN investments?
I suggest you re-visit this thread on 25 August?
Mod's aren't allowed to post personal opinions. Disregard all the above and I'll crawl back into my box!
Tipped the maximum $100K into my super in the last two years, over 30% of which has disappeared into roof batts, school halls and other frivolous Government projects (via the Super input tax) and into stock losses - including Qantas shares - that my Super fund invests in.
Retirement just moved another decade away!
I simply do not understand how any company can publicly confess:
Qantas’ market share of international flights to and from Australia has also declined significantly - from 35 per cent to 18 per cent.
We are not talking profit or yield here (which would be impacted by operating costs including staff salaries) but bare, factual, competitive market performance which is what Management are employed to exploit, build and grow.Is that not a blatant management confession of their own failure to adequately manage and grow their business? Surely the Australian public are not so gullible they buy the cr@p that loss of market share is a direct result of unions asking for job security for their Members?
I am not a union man but I certainly understand QF staff and their union's desire to ensure our national icon airline always calls Australia home.
Qantas last share sale $1.795. Cheap as chips, go buy a few!
J P Morgan and HSBC must be feeling investor heat for their QAN investments?
Tailwheel, you are an astute individual, would you be able to bookmark a calendar diary entry and we can re-visit this thread in 12 months time, just for sh#ts and giggles ??
Mod's aren't allowed to post personal opinions. Disregard all the above and I'll crawl back into my box!
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I was lead to believe Qantas was always an International airline
Qantas’ market share of international flights to and from Australia has also declined significantly - from 35 per cent to 18 per cent.
(miraculously overnight) as much as they did defending the John Travolta safety video saying incidently,
''There's no one I'd rather have at the controls than a Qantas pilot.''
I wish these smart guys in the room would put as much effort in making pretty fact less web sites, running the product down and instead start concentrating on running the business.
The guys & girls running SQ EK & CX must be thinking, "you only get one Alan Joyce in your business life."
They say, history is prone to repeating itself, the thought did cross my mind, "one Alan went down the river," what if the other Alan ...... nah, wishful thinking.
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My wife has decided that she cannot watch Qantas be destroyed without giving a fight. In the last few days she has emailed Nick Xenephon thanking him for his work, local members encouraging them to support Xenephon's private members bill, Peter Cosgrove with questions, posted a more than honest comment on qantaslies to give them some feedback on their website and encouraged her family members to do the same.
She wants to encourage all partners to do the same.
She wants to encourage all partners to do the same.
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Qantas values
"Qantas values our long-haul pilots and the important work they do
Qantas values our licensed engineers
Qantas values our ground staff and the important work they do "
Of course they do, just not very highly!
Qantas values our licensed engineers
Qantas values our ground staff and the important work they do "
Of course they do, just not very highly!
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As requested, I have posted these again for the people who didn't see it as the thread it was on was deleted. After reading what has been said on here I thought this was the appropriate place to put it. The first one is the spin the staff has to put up with when they watch the news on the ABC after a hard day at work.
The second one makes you feel better
The second one makes you feel better
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A valuable commodity
"Qantas values our long-haul pilots and the important work they do
Qantas values our licensed engineers
Qantas values our ground staff and the important work they do "
Of course they do, just not very highly!
Qantas values our licensed engineers
Qantas values our ground staff and the important work they do "
Of course they do, just not very highly!
"Qantas values our executive remuneration packages inclusive of OTP bonuses, KPI bonuses, huge salaries, consultancy fee's (rumoured) , retention bonuses, sign on bonuses, and executive share allocation".
And ,
"Qantas will not, has not and does not value Wirthless hairstyle".
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What a pathetic website! Shame on you Qantass!
Premium rates? How about FAIR and REASONABLE rates? NZD$65,000 for an a320 f/o is NOT reasonable!!!!
AIPA wants to force all Qantas affiliate airlines, including Jetstar and Jetconnect, to pay their pilots the same premium rates and conditions as Qantas pilots.
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Wow!
I am actually quite surprised as to how pathetic the site is! It is so blatant its almost a comedy, definitely it was rushed into production, a teenager could develop a better site than that one. Looks like their polling is showing the tide is not with management!
I am actually quite surprised as to how pathetic the site is! It is so blatant its almost a comedy, definitely it was rushed into production, a teenager could develop a better site than that one. Looks like their polling is showing the tide is not with management!
I notice that, unlike the AIPA website, there is no provision for discussion boards or online comments so that their LIES can be responded to in full public view. This is typical of the arrogance of Qantas management where the information flow is only one way. WE TALK - YOU LISTEN!!
Was looking forward to really ripping in to some of the BLATANT lies on this site like "All Qantas flights are flown by Qantas pilots". What about JETCONNECT you LIARS??!!?
There is provision for email feed back at the foot of the home page.
There is not a provision to leave on line comments.
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Was looking forward to really ripping in to some of the BLATANT lies on this site like "All Qantas flights are flown by Qantas pilots". What about JETCONNECT you LIARS??!!?
There is provision for email feed back at the foot of the home page.
There is not a provision to leave on line comments.
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Mudskipper,
Well done to the Mrs and all power to her, these people are playing with everyone's lives and so far seem to be getting away with it.
I am only slf and wish there was more that I could do as I detest blatant dishonesty which is being peddled now by the morally corrupt.
Hope the wife trawled through the General's speeches (easily found on net) because there sure are some telling statements in there that should be trotted out now.
I know he is only one on the Board but surely with the contradictions that exist now he has to decide whether at a personal level he can actually live with the decisions that have been made. If he cannot, then he should WALK.
If he doesn't, then he is being hypocritical and never for a moment have I thought that up until now as even a possibility.
Directors fees only cover rental of the body/mind not ownership.
Time for some individuals to assess their own roles in this whole mess.
Well done to the Mrs and all power to her, these people are playing with everyone's lives and so far seem to be getting away with it.
I am only slf and wish there was more that I could do as I detest blatant dishonesty which is being peddled now by the morally corrupt.
Hope the wife trawled through the General's speeches (easily found on net) because there sure are some telling statements in there that should be trotted out now.
I know he is only one on the Board but surely with the contradictions that exist now he has to decide whether at a personal level he can actually live with the decisions that have been made. If he cannot, then he should WALK.
If he doesn't, then he is being hypocritical and never for a moment have I thought that up until now as even a possibility.
Directors fees only cover rental of the body/mind not ownership.
Time for some individuals to assess their own roles in this whole mess.
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I'd suggest that the Qantas bull**** site will be viewed by the majority of Australians for what it is, complete bull**** and company whinging.
We as a nation are pretty f@#king stupid sometimes but one thing we are is cynical.
You boys are doing a pretty good job. I don't know of any company with any integrity that would start a website like that. They are obviously ****ting themselves
Go hard boys
We as a nation are pretty f@#king stupid sometimes but one thing we are is cynical.
You boys are doing a pretty good job. I don't know of any company with any integrity that would start a website like that. They are obviously ****ting themselves
Go hard boys
A bit of digging reveals who is doing this for Qantas.
STW group owns Ogilvy Public Relations Australia - public relations companies, public relations firms, public relations agency, public relations, PR, public relations jobs, public relations internships, public affairs that did the iconic campaign's for Qantas such as STW Group - What Works
Tugging on the heart strings one year, lying about your staff the next.
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