Pilot, asset or liability?
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Pilot, asset or liability?
Qantas were keen & and a large number of Qantas pilots were keen to take leave without pay to fly for Emirates.
Had this happened Qantas were willing to let highly experience First officers leave Qantas to work for one of their biggest competitors.
Qantas would only do this as they see experienced pilots as a liability.
Emirates obviously view experienced pilots as an asset as their experience requirements would confirm.
Qantas pilots would only leave Qantas for a period of time so as to avail themselves to the terms & conditions &/or the experience received flying for Emirates that is obviously not available at QF. Either that or they have very little faith in the direction of QF management.
Qantas group airlines on the other hand are hiring external pilots. Offering industry low pay & asking for industry low experience.
Can we please have a change of management at Qantas. All we ask is for management who understands aviation, who has a positive view of aviation.
If you think the only way to make money is to cut costs don't apply.
Full service airlines are a people business. Find the best people available, treat them well, fly a modern fleet of properly configured aircraft to a range of quality destinations. Respect your customers.
Assets & liabilities can extend further than an accountants calculator.
Had this happened Qantas were willing to let highly experience First officers leave Qantas to work for one of their biggest competitors.
Qantas would only do this as they see experienced pilots as a liability.
Emirates obviously view experienced pilots as an asset as their experience requirements would confirm.
Qantas pilots would only leave Qantas for a period of time so as to avail themselves to the terms & conditions &/or the experience received flying for Emirates that is obviously not available at QF. Either that or they have very little faith in the direction of QF management.
Qantas group airlines on the other hand are hiring external pilots. Offering industry low pay & asking for industry low experience.
Can we please have a change of management at Qantas. All we ask is for management who understands aviation, who has a positive view of aviation.
If you think the only way to make money is to cut costs don't apply.
Full service airlines are a people business. Find the best people available, treat them well, fly a modern fleet of properly configured aircraft to a range of quality destinations. Respect your customers.
Assets & liabilities can extend further than an accountants calculator.
That's exactly right mate.
As has been quoted on here numerous times before, "Accountants ( & Managers ) know the cost of everything and the value of nothing".
ANZ is an excellent example of how a full service airline can totally turn around its fortunes when a great management team is at the helm by focusing on what you have said--
Full service airlines are a people business. Find the best people available, treat them well, fly a modern fleet of properly configured aircraft to a range of quality destinations. Respect your customers.
Managements forget that aviation is a SERVICE INDUSTRY, the ultimate goal is to provide EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE to your customers.
Qantas & Jetstar management obviously have never heard of or read this book about Southwest Airlines --
As Colleen Barrett, president emeritus at Southwest, explains in her new book, Lead with LUV: A Different Way to Create Real Success, “When we talk to our People, we proudly draw a pyramid on the chalkboard and tell them: You are at the top of the pyramid. You are the most important person to us. You are our most important Customer in terms of priority.”
As a result, managers at Southwest are expected to spend approximately 80 percent of their time treating employees with Golden Rule behavior and trying to make sure that employees have an enjoyable work environment where they feel good about what they do, about themselves, and about their position within the company.
But this managerial focus on employees also sets an expectation that employees will demonstrate the same behavior with customers. As Barrett goes on to explain: “But if I do that, what I want in exchange is for you to do the same thing by offering our Passengers—who are our second Customer in terms of priority—the same kind of warmth, caring, and fun spirit.”
At Southwest, the belief is that if leaders take care of their people, then their people will take care of their customers. This in turn will create a loyal customer base which comes back often and recommends Southwest to other travelers which pleases the third Customer—shareholders.
As has been quoted on here numerous times before, "Accountants ( & Managers ) know the cost of everything and the value of nothing".
ANZ is an excellent example of how a full service airline can totally turn around its fortunes when a great management team is at the helm by focusing on what you have said--
Full service airlines are a people business. Find the best people available, treat them well, fly a modern fleet of properly configured aircraft to a range of quality destinations. Respect your customers.
Managements forget that aviation is a SERVICE INDUSTRY, the ultimate goal is to provide EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE to your customers.
Qantas & Jetstar management obviously have never heard of or read this book about Southwest Airlines --
As Colleen Barrett, president emeritus at Southwest, explains in her new book, Lead with LUV: A Different Way to Create Real Success, “When we talk to our People, we proudly draw a pyramid on the chalkboard and tell them: You are at the top of the pyramid. You are the most important person to us. You are our most important Customer in terms of priority.”
As a result, managers at Southwest are expected to spend approximately 80 percent of their time treating employees with Golden Rule behavior and trying to make sure that employees have an enjoyable work environment where they feel good about what they do, about themselves, and about their position within the company.
But this managerial focus on employees also sets an expectation that employees will demonstrate the same behavior with customers. As Barrett goes on to explain: “But if I do that, what I want in exchange is for you to do the same thing by offering our Passengers—who are our second Customer in terms of priority—the same kind of warmth, caring, and fun spirit.”
At Southwest, the belief is that if leaders take care of their people, then their people will take care of their customers. This in turn will create a loyal customer base which comes back often and recommends Southwest to other travelers which pleases the third Customer—shareholders.
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How many times have you heard the gut wrenching phrase “Our Employees are our Greatest Asset”? From annual all employee meetings, to company-wide memos, the over-used phrase is out of touch.
While you could split hairs between the definitions of the two, here are a few key differences:
- Asset: An item that is owned, the items detailed on a balance sheet, an item of ownership having exchange value, and all property available for the payment of debts.
- Investment: Devoting, giving time, emotional energy, and talent for the purpose of achieving something. Investing in to gain a profitable return.
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Asset if self respecting and chooses terms and conditions reflective of the professional they are AND to secure the conditions of new arrivals AND for new arrivals to be willing to view themselves as valued professionals and to not undercut themselves and profession.
Liability when they forget that they are effecting more than themselves by choosing substandard EBA/T&C's
Liability when they forget that they are effecting more than themselves by choosing substandard EBA/T&C's
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Pilot, asset or liability?
As seen by most airline boards -
Pilot = a very expensive Human Interface Device required by
aviation law and reluctantly fitted into aeroplanes for the sole
purpose of flight safety and nothing else. Bane of CEO bonus
payouts and envious bean counters.
Very much a must-replace-with-a-trained-monkey-one-day
agenda item.
Pilot = a very expensive Human Interface Device required by
aviation law and reluctantly fitted into aeroplanes for the sole
purpose of flight safety and nothing else. Bane of CEO bonus
payouts and envious bean counters.
Very much a must-replace-with-a-trained-monkey-one-day
agenda item.
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There is an aspect to this whole debate that just astounds me as an observer.
The value of an employee to an employer is largely determined by the time it takes to acquire the skills to do a competent job and that may involve study, mentoring,actual experience and acquiring of street smart skills.That of course flows into supply and demand and if it takes longer then you need a pool of talent to maintain supply.
Putting aside the high demand by those who want to fly for a living, why is it that companies like the Rat are trying to devalue those skills and no one really cares?
Profit is just a furfie in my view because the risk of totally destroying ongoing revenue and profits with a dispute like this is a far greater threat to profits than saving the pittance they are trying to achieve. Maybe someone should get an undertaking from the Rat that any savings will also be matched by bonus reductions and not repeat the GD fiasco???
Even some pilots are at each others throats on this site and it just beggars belief.
If ever there was a time to establish the role as an asset this is it and I just dont see the public getting that message from anyone still.
AIPA website is a good start but it is way too subtle and hidden away.
I am worried that you are still being outsmarted by the smartest guys in the room who are distracting you from the main game.
The value of an employee to an employer is largely determined by the time it takes to acquire the skills to do a competent job and that may involve study, mentoring,actual experience and acquiring of street smart skills.That of course flows into supply and demand and if it takes longer then you need a pool of talent to maintain supply.
Putting aside the high demand by those who want to fly for a living, why is it that companies like the Rat are trying to devalue those skills and no one really cares?
Profit is just a furfie in my view because the risk of totally destroying ongoing revenue and profits with a dispute like this is a far greater threat to profits than saving the pittance they are trying to achieve. Maybe someone should get an undertaking from the Rat that any savings will also be matched by bonus reductions and not repeat the GD fiasco???
Even some pilots are at each others throats on this site and it just beggars belief.
If ever there was a time to establish the role as an asset this is it and I just dont see the public getting that message from anyone still.
AIPA website is a good start but it is way too subtle and hidden away.
I am worried that you are still being outsmarted by the smartest guys in the room who are distracting you from the main game.
