Up to 400 QF Cabin Crew to be axed - pilots next?

[astroboy55]

Airtags,

The mam rumor is floating around, have heard it from a few sources including Aipa.

Qccuk crew received an email, I'm trying to get a hold of it

Cheers

[simsalabim]

No surprise really . Foreign national flight attendants , domiciled and paid overseas are now operating Qantas Flights domestically . I have emailed my local Federal member to request he take this up with the Minister responsible for allowing this outrage .

[whatever6719]

Operating Qantas domestic flights??? I knew about Jetstar operating some tag flights with foreign crew on domestic sectors but mainline QF flights???
Can you provide more info?

[skylarker]

Foreign national flight attendants , domiciled and paid overseas are now operating Qantas Flights domestically

I doubt that very much and would love to see the evidence.
The foreign crew would be endorsed on the B744 and A380 only unless they have been brought over here and trained on the rest of the operating domestic fleet. Again I doubt it.
QFUK crew have operated in the past along side QCCA and QAL crew on LH type rated A/C (A380/B744), but only on long haul routes.

[Tankengine]

Skylarker,
It may be a suprise for you but A330s operate domestically and also Internationally as far away as New York!

[skylarker]

I fly on them regularly myself for LH and know exactly where they fly.
Now what is your point?
Only AKL based crew are endorsed on the A330 as far as foreign based crew are concerned and only fly them as part of a LH crew on a domestic service IE:SYD/ PER/SYD.

[simsalabim]

Just to clarify . I am talking about NZ based nationals employed by Jetconnect now operating alongside (taking the jobs of) Australian based Flight Attendants on Australian based Qantas 747's and A330's on Qantas Domestic Flights with stand alone Qantas mainline flight numbers.These flight are not continuing onto overseas destinations.The Fed Sec of FA's Association can confirm this .

[skylarker]

I am talking about NZ based nationals employed by Jetconnect now operating alongside (taking the jobs of) Australian based Flight Attendants on Australian based Qantas 747's and A330's on Qantas Domestic Flights with stand alone Qantas mainline flight numbers.

Again, whats your point? This has been going on for years. This happened with the B743 on PER sectors. Again as part of a LH crew....nothing new happening here.
You could say that LH crew are taking away SH crew flying then....pfffft...been there before.
I still see SH crew slipping in SIN....doing LH flying.

[simsalabim]

Read the name of this thread and you will see my point.

[skylarker]

Up to 400 QF Cabin Crew to be axed - pilots next?

Well that's incorrect as well, isn't it?

Voluntary Redundancy is not axed? CR is
Crew seem to be rather happy about this package coming along.

If you are insinuating that QF are using AKL based crew on domestic sectors while at the same time they are AXING cc, you are way of the mark.

If on the other hand if QF hire MAM casuals after AXING SH CC, then that is another matter I would think.

[indamiddle]

has been a lot ot talk about how many cc in lh will take the vcr and will qf achieve the 350-400 target. the biggest problem is how much superannuation accounts have recovered from the nato financial cricis. with the maximum payout around $120000 this won't be making a large increase in annual income in retirement. general chat seems to be not enough at this stage! the second problem for qf is part time crew. so many are very happy in part time, they feel as if they are in retirement already. if they don't have any plan for retirement why would they leave. perhaps a lot of short haulers may make up the numbers.
does anyone have any ideas if a package for tech crew would work i.e. bring forward retirement for pilots and get some promotion in your ranks