Letter to Geoffrey Thomas (Aviation expert)
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I won't be rushing out to buy another copy of Australian Aviation as a small protest.
From all my dealings with the team at AA, they are very dedicated at what they do and produce a high quality product on a shoestring budget in a shrinking magazine market.
Just because one of their freelance columnists has an opinion with which you don't agree on one particular subject (and he often criticises QF in the magazine too), does that mean the whole magazine is wrong too? Grow up...
And as for those suggesting GT is on the take from QF, unless you know this for a fact, such comments make you no better than what you are accusing him of!
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I won't be rushing out to buy another copy of Australian Aviation as a small protest.
...and don't forget to pick up your dummy as well!
The public will not pay what the engineers and pilots deserve
One of the stupidest "expert" set of words I have ever read on this forum.
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What qualifications does Geoffrey Thomas have to make him or qualify him as an expert in aviation?
If anyone knows of a retired/former Pilot or Engo or airline exec who can write well or is comfortable giving opinion in front of a camera and can remain totally impartial towards their former employers, I'm sure AA or Sunrise would love to hear from them.
Until then, GT or others like Peter Harbison and Ben Sandilands are the experts we have.
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God help us then...
As has already been said, that was the most unbalanced "interview" I've seen in a while...
Maybe GT is going for the soon to be vacated Qantas PR position?
As has already been said, that was the most unbalanced "interview" I've seen in a while...
Maybe GT is going for the soon to be vacated Qantas PR position?
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I said expert ON it, not expert AT it!
I would also suggest that its probably Sunrise who labels him as "an expert" as opposed to himself promoting himself as one.
Anyway, you guys continue to play semantics while the big boys worry about the real issue here.
I would also suggest that its probably Sunrise who labels him as "an expert" as opposed to himself promoting himself as one.
Anyway, you guys continue to play semantics while the big boys worry about the real issue here.
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No wonder Qantas management won't deal with you lot if this is indicative of the way you present your arguments! Good luck to you...
Don't worry Mods, no need to close it down. I'll return to normal programming now...
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FA18 you made some good points and bad ones but all I ask for is the truth to be told to the public
And what was on sunrise was far from it
And I would expect an expert journalist to research all avenues be for commenting especially on national TV,
We all make mistakes from time to time and the difference between an idiot and an expert is the expert will learn from it
And what was on sunrise was far from it
And I would expect an expert journalist to research all avenues be for commenting especially on national TV,
We all make mistakes from time to time and the difference between an idiot and an expert is the expert will learn from it
IMHO AA displayed some bias toward Ansett and Australian Management during that year that can't be mentioned so I expect they'll be no different this time round.
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Jeez, how is that good for QANTAS?
You guys must know how I feel about scabs from some of my previous posts, I am old school, and I dont apologise for that.
I think that anybody that acts as a strike breaker, for any reason, is a prostitute, yes, and that includes you, if that is what you are doing. ( I wish I could find an angry emoticon )
You guys must know how I feel about scabs from some of my previous posts, I am old school, and I dont apologise for that.
I think that anybody that acts as a strike breaker, for any reason, is a prostitute, yes, and that includes you, if that is what you are doing. ( I wish I could find an angry emoticon )
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Wow.
Never before have I seen this forum so united.
However, people are focused on the wrong side of this story. Whether or not GT is an aviation expert is irrelevant. He doesn't professionally do ANYTHING in our industry. What he IS, is a professional journalist. I have read a vast number of your articles and columns over the years Geoff, and to be honest, I've always found your writing to be largely impartial and interesting. What I saw the other morning on Sunrise was abhorrent. I was always taught at university to collect all the facts and information before putting pen to paper, to avoid making a fool of myself. Thankfully, I only had my lecturer's opinion to sway... you unfortunately (for us), had millions watching you. The very best journalists always portray both sides of the story; present the facts and let the viewer decide what to think. YOU TOLD THE VIEWER WHAT TO THINK, AND FED THEM FALSE INFORMATION.
I don't care if you're an aviation expert or not GT, you certainly are not an expert journalist.
For your information, I'm not a Qantas pilot or engineer.
Never before have I seen this forum so united.
However, people are focused on the wrong side of this story. Whether or not GT is an aviation expert is irrelevant. He doesn't professionally do ANYTHING in our industry. What he IS, is a professional journalist. I have read a vast number of your articles and columns over the years Geoff, and to be honest, I've always found your writing to be largely impartial and interesting. What I saw the other morning on Sunrise was abhorrent. I was always taught at university to collect all the facts and information before putting pen to paper, to avoid making a fool of myself. Thankfully, I only had my lecturer's opinion to sway... you unfortunately (for us), had millions watching you. The very best journalists always portray both sides of the story; present the facts and let the viewer decide what to think. YOU TOLD THE VIEWER WHAT TO THINK, AND FED THEM FALSE INFORMATION.
I don't care if you're an aviation expert or not GT, you certainly are not an expert journalist.
For your information, I'm not a Qantas pilot or engineer.
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From the wizard of id,Remember the Golden rule!
"He who has the gold,makes the rules!
Guess what,the media are going to side with who pays the bills(Qantas/Jetstar)
You guy's need professional help or your sunk.
Sorry,but that is the way it is!
"He who has the gold,makes the rules!
Guess what,the media are going to side with who pays the bills(Qantas/Jetstar)
You guy's need professional help or your sunk.
Sorry,but that is the way it is!
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What angers me is this. It was a cuppla years ago and I saw something that GT did that made me hit the roof, similar scenario. I thought i would contact this bloke to set the record straight. He was nice on the phone and agreed that he should call me if there was anything of relevance that he would be talking or writing about.
He knew very well the topic of this Sunrise episode beforehand. He knew my number and he did not call me, the ALAEA main number or any LAME so he could report both sides of the story. The nice response to date contains this -
Watch what you say on the show GT. Watch it again and tell us wtf you are basically saying the opposite whilst talking to 4 Million people.
He knew very well the topic of this Sunrise episode beforehand. He knew my number and he did not call me, the ALAEA main number or any LAME so he could report both sides of the story. The nice response to date contains this -
The public will not pay what the engineers and pilots deserve.
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pulling the wings off the roo and turning it into a dirty rat!
ALAEA Fed Sec,
I re-posted what he said here for everyone's convenience.
Oh yes, first thing that came to my mind as well..
Talk about pulling the wings off the roo and turning it into a dirty rat!
I re-posted what he said here for everyone's convenience.
He knew very well the topic of this Sunrise episode beforehand.
Talk about pulling the wings off the roo and turning it into a dirty rat!
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