Plane Talking - Ben Sandilands on the money yet again!
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Ahaaa .......it's the crew meal allowances and the super scheme that is the root cause of all the woes ! From this day on all pilot's and flight attendants should hand the envelopes back . This will save the airline and lift someone's KPI's to the point of achieving a nice little bonus.
Nothing to do with the following recent payments to the gang of six :
G Dixon $10.7 million for 5 months work 2008/9 making him the world's highest paid airline executive
P.Gregg $4.9 million for 3 months work
C.Storrie $1.6 million
A.Joyce $8.7million for 2 years work
Borghetti $10.7 million 2 years work
K.Browne $6.9 million (est) 2 years work
Stomach churning really.
Nothing to do with the following recent payments to the gang of six :
G Dixon $10.7 million for 5 months work 2008/9 making him the world's highest paid airline executive
P.Gregg $4.9 million for 3 months work
C.Storrie $1.6 million
A.Joyce $8.7million for 2 years work
Borghetti $10.7 million 2 years work
K.Browne $6.9 million (est) 2 years work
Stomach churning really.
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If you are going to quote me, get it right! While 'seven million dollars' is 'several million dollars', it's not what I posted. 
As for comparing a pilot's - any rank - benefit with that of the CEO of one of Australia's largest companies, I'll let that pass to the keeper.
As for comparing a pilot's - any rank - benefit with that of the CEO of one of Australia's largest companies, I'll let that pass to the keeper.
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Qantas CEO cf CX,Emirates SouthWest
How about you compare Joyce's salary with those of his peers?
You will find that he is paid more than any of the above.
There's the rub.Most Qantas execs are paid above their peers.
Management productivity and competence is below other comparable airlines but their remuneration is higher.
Qantas isnt an airline...its a train....a gravy train for management
BTW several means a number more two.Seven is more than two.You are not being misquoted
You will find that he is paid more than any of the above.
There's the rub.Most Qantas execs are paid above their peers.
Management productivity and competence is below other comparable airlines but their remuneration is higher.
Qantas isnt an airline...its a train....a gravy train for management
BTW several means a number more two.Seven is more than two.You are not being misquoted
BTW several means a number more two.Seven is more than two.You are not being misquoted
As much as we despised TT at Cx he was paid less than 2 million AUD per year and CX made 12 billion HKD last financial year and is in a period of expansion with lots of Boeing's and Airbus's on order. A bit different to the god's supposedly running QF!!
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Ken, I'd back any experienced skipper having a crack at CEO duties for a year than Joyce flying any jet aircraft just once. One would get by, the other would be a disaster.
By all means lets discuss skill sets and their worth.
Incompetent CEO's can call in advisors and consultants in a crisis and promptly claim personal success and pass off blame for any failure. A pilot lives and dies by the sword.
By all means lets discuss skill sets and their worth.
Incompetent CEO's can call in advisors and consultants in a crisis and promptly claim personal success and pass off blame for any failure. A pilot lives and dies by the sword.
When someone has to call the office, send a faxed incident report, etc, etc it's generally the Captain that does all that stuff. That's why Captains get paid the extra ADTA and ODTA.
Keg, you have to be joking! Extra allowances so that you can send a fax - how many incidents a year are we talking?
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Tut Tut back
Leadsled can you show us where the go around SOP is found in the A320 AFM?
There is no such procedure in the AFM as another poster states.
It is only in the FCOM.
Airbus does not care what you do to the FCOM SOP section.
You can change FCOM procedures without changing the AFM.
The AFM for all aircraft is very basic, the procedures do not look anything like those found in the FCOM or QRH.
There is no such procedure in the AFM as another poster states.
It is only in the FCOM.
Airbus does not care what you do to the FCOM SOP section.
You can change FCOM procedures without changing the AFM.
The AFM for all aircraft is very basic, the procedures do not look anything like those found in the FCOM or QRH.
I wouldn't go as far as to say " Airbus don't care what you do to the FCOM ", they had plenty to say about CX/KAs bastardization of same, to the point where KA have ( smartly ) reverted to STD Airbus SOPs on quite a few things
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Nothing to do with the following recent payments to the gang of six :
G Dixon $10.7 million for 5 months work 2008/9 making him the world's highest paid airline executive
P.Gregg $4.9 million for 3 months work
C.Storrie $1.6 million
A.Joyce $8.7million for 2 years work
Borghetti $10.7 million 2 years work
K.Browne $6.9 million (est) 2 years work
G Dixon $10.7 million for 5 months work 2008/9 making him the world's highest paid airline executive
P.Gregg $4.9 million for 3 months work
C.Storrie $1.6 million
A.Joyce $8.7million for 2 years work
Borghetti $10.7 million 2 years work
K.Browne $6.9 million (est) 2 years work
Ken Ken Ken, as always your facts, figures, brain capacity and detail is flawed, innacurate and a load of tripe interspersed with shisen. You truly are a white ant (as you decribe) who has chewed on too many garden gnomes to be sure......now please be gone, to be sure.
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Yet again this allegation of consultancy payments arises.
If it is true then "out" the details as this is the time for everyone to know. It would be a major PR disaster for those who manage this place (and I use the term very loosely) including the Board.
Would be interesting to see how they spin that.
Even for PP standards you should not make these allegations without either details or proof.
If it is true then "out" the details as this is the time for everyone to know. It would be a major PR disaster for those who manage this place (and I use the term very loosely) including the Board.
Would be interesting to see how they spin that.
Even for PP standards you should not make these allegations without either details or proof.
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Correct me if I'm wrong:
Qantas and anybody else in the aviation business would view Crikey as definitely NOT mainstream media?
For Joyce to directly reply to Mr Sandilands shows that maybe he's getting a little worried/desperate?
Well done, Ben
keep the pressure on the little bastard.
This EBA may deliver even more benefits to the employees of Qantas
Qantas and anybody else in the aviation business would view Crikey as definitely NOT mainstream media?
For Joyce to directly reply to Mr Sandilands shows that maybe he's getting a little worried/desperate?
Well done, Ben
keep the pressure on the little bastard.This EBA may deliver even more benefits to the employees of Qantas
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Some pressure was applied in the Sydney Morning Herald this morning too.
Flying into trouble
As well as Sandilands I'm seeing a better quality of reporting from Matt O'Sullivan, Elizabeth Knight and Adele Ferguson.
Flying into trouble
As well as Sandilands I'm seeing a better quality of reporting from Matt O'Sullivan, Elizabeth Knight and Adele Ferguson.
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Yet again this allegation of consultancy payments arises.
If it is true then "out" the details as this is the time for everyone to know. It would be a major PR disaster for those who manage this place (and I use the term very loosely) including the Board.
Would be interesting to see how they spin that.
Even for PP standards you should not make these allegations without either details or proof.
If it is true then "out" the details as this is the time for everyone to know. It would be a major PR disaster for those who manage this place (and I use the term very loosely) including the Board.
Would be interesting to see how they spin that.
Even for PP standards you should not make these allegations without either details or proof.
