Tiger Airways may faces being grounded after safety breaches
FAA Civil Penalties
As an occasional pax on Tiger, what appals me is CASA's secrecy. I need to know what Tiger is (not) doing in order to make an informed judgement whether the cost saving is worthwhile.
In the US, FAA has a much better tool to punish recalcitrant airlines than a secret "show cause" letter. To understand how FAA administers civil penalties and is obliged to publish PROPOSED penalties greater than $50,000 see Fact Sheet – The FAA and Aviation Civil Penalties. Presumeably CASA did not give Tiger a "show cause" for lesser infringements than those that in the US would rate a $50,000 penalty and well informed adverse publicity.
Instead all we can hope for here is a rigorous Senate Inquiry that inter alia reveals the contents of CASA's "show cause" letter.
BTW long ago when (then) CAA was forced to drop all rules that were more stringent than those in US, I was one of those pleading for Australia to introduce a rigorous system of civil penalties, to keep the airlines honest.
In the US, FAA has a much better tool to punish recalcitrant airlines than a secret "show cause" letter. To understand how FAA administers civil penalties and is obliged to publish PROPOSED penalties greater than $50,000 see Fact Sheet – The FAA and Aviation Civil Penalties. Presumeably CASA did not give Tiger a "show cause" for lesser infringements than those that in the US would rate a $50,000 penalty and well informed adverse publicity.
Instead all we can hope for here is a rigorous Senate Inquiry that inter alia reveals the contents of CASA's "show cause" letter.
BTW long ago when (then) CAA was forced to drop all rules that were more stringent than those in US, I was one of those pleading for Australia to introduce a rigorous system of civil penalties, to keep the airlines honest.
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Please dont fly Tiger - at least support an Australian owned airline.
Qantas to Alice Springs $250....Tiger $50...
I think its about time these Australian owned airlines started supporting us!
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I think you will find the Australians are supporting you. Qantas/VA to Alice Springs $250, that is the cost of getting you there whilst abiding with the CAR's with regard to maintenance, 50 bucks well good luck have a nice flight and maybe that's what CASA is trying to save you from.
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Badaz, once up on a time I would have agreed with you. Once up on a time Qantas set and adhered to impecable standards, better than the international norm. You'd be deluding yourself to think it's still true or that it is worth paying extra for Qantas "safety". Read ATSB spills the dirty dishwater on another Qantas drama | Plane Talking or the ATSB reports on that incident and on Qantas overrun at Bangkok.
In 1990 Qantas was at the forefront of forcing elimination of all rules that were (sensibly) more stringent than overseas. Now, statistically the safest airline in the world is a low cost carrier - Southwest.
In 1990 Qantas was at the forefront of forcing elimination of all rules that were (sensibly) more stringent than overseas. Now, statistically the safest airline in the world is a low cost carrier - Southwest.
Please dont fly Tiger - at least support an Australian owned airline
Qantas...We still call Australia 51% home.
Virgin...Well what about the funds sent to Mr Branson every month?
Rex...Singapore owned
Skywest...Singapore owned
Mmmmm...
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If JHAS is still doing Tigers maintenance, how come they don't seem to have been mentioned in any of the press articles?
I would say no at this point. JHAS are a service provider. They only perform the functions that they get paid to do, as organised by Tiger. If for arguments sake Tiger were cutting corners, providing a crappy customer service or even neglecting to comply with all aspects of law and legislation do you blame the Airline (AOC holder) or its third party contractors ? I would point the finger at the AOC holder, and only if the actual third party contractor had buggered up in a major way causing damage or a loss of credibility to the Airline would I then start dragging the third party into the spotlight.
Folks,
If the TIGER advertisements in last Friday's Australian are anything to go by, CASA is concerned that Tiger doesn't meet the local industry (CASA directed) norms or level of chairwarmers, and "overheads" drones generally.
ie Administrative services provided (undoubtedly very "economically") from Singapore must be provided locally ????
After all, the CASA statements have said that it is not a matter that is likely to ground the operation, which I presume means that CASA IS satisfied with the day to day operations and maintenance.
Maybe the "compliance issues" are all about the CASA version of compliance with the huge weight of administrative minutiae that is unique to Australian aviation regulation.
Tootle pip!!
If the TIGER advertisements in last Friday's Australian are anything to go by, CASA is concerned that Tiger doesn't meet the local industry (CASA directed) norms or level of chairwarmers, and "overheads" drones generally.
ie Administrative services provided (undoubtedly very "economically") from Singapore must be provided locally ????
After all, the CASA statements have said that it is not a matter that is likely to ground the operation, which I presume means that CASA IS satisfied with the day to day operations and maintenance.
Maybe the "compliance issues" are all about the CASA version of compliance with the huge weight of administrative minutiae that is unique to Australian aviation regulation.
Tootle pip!!
If JHAS is still doing Tigers maintenance, how come they don't seem to have been mentioned in any of the press articles?
resigned or retired?
So is KB retiring or is he off to Strategic too?
