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Old 22nd Apr 2011, 10:16
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What of JHAS in this mess.
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Old 22nd Apr 2011, 10:39
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Id love to see AirAsia enter this market, CASA would have them banned in their first week

You really think Tiger are that bad?, just wait until you see what this Scare Asia mob demonstrate up north
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Old 22nd Apr 2011, 11:19
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Reports have another flight ex mel cancelled faulty windscreen? Having bad hair week ,need new managment and tidy up real quick or kuput<shame real shame
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Old 22nd Apr 2011, 11:58
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MH you credit J* with way too much forward planning ability to suggest that they are training Captains because of anything to do with Tiger. They have only announced command vacanies to make up for the numbers they should have had in place already. A lot of Captains in melbourne are starting to run out of hours for the year.
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Old 22nd Apr 2011, 12:02
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I actually had a gentlemen cancel his return flight from Melbourne on Virgin Blue today as he was travelling down on Tiger and was scared to fly with them! Seems the publicity is not doing them any good.
They certainly have had some mammoth delays due to engineering... Today it was over 9 hours but at least they came.
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 06:35
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Question Grammar a bit out

And why would he cancel his return VB flight when it's Tiger that has the issues.

Did you in fact mean 'You had someone on a return VB flight that had cancelled his Tiger flights due concerns'.

Hurray for defined and structured sentences in aviation - we would not want to be misunderstood would we.

Ducks for cover now due incoming!!!

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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 07:06
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Or possibly he was taking a holiday somewhere booked with tiger and coming home Virgin (who was probably cheaper at the time), and now Tiger are so dangerous, he's throwing the baby out with the bath water and not going at all!
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 07:51
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quote "Sorry Captain deluded, but other than the VB Embraer fleet Tiger would have some of the least experienced drivers in airline ops in Australia".

You do know experience isn't taken into account when being placed on an aircraft type within VB unless you already hold one of the endorsements. I've seen 40yr old guys with 10,000+ hrs go on the Embraer and 25yr old guys with 2500 hrs go on the 737. Just depends on ther timing of entry.

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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 09:55
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Yes... I meant he was throwing the bath water out with the baby...
And another today... wanted to talk to Tiger staff about their flight on the 4th of May... Wanted to ask "Will it still be on, is it safe etc etc"... I took the time to assure the young lady that while nothing in life is certain that I was sure that Tiger would still be operating and that I myself would not have a problem taking a flight with them... and that all airlines can have delays.
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 10:59
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And another today... wanted to talk to Tiger staff about their flight on the 4th of May... Wanted to ask "Will it still be on, is it safe etc etc"... I took the time to assure the young lady that while nothing in life is certain that I was sure that Tiger would still be operating and that I myself would not have a problem taking a flight with them... and that all airlines can have delays.
So are Tiger Pilot's forced to do ground staff duties?

Or are you ground staff pretending to be a Pilot?
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 11:22
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So on what basis can you make assertions about the safety and viability of Tiger?
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 14:39
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Psycho - Probably on the basis of a "show cause" issued by CASA.
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Old 24th Apr 2011, 08:45
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On what do you base your assertions of Tiger being safe and viable?
They haven't got a semi-recent history of bits dropping off their planes or catastrophic engine failures unlike a certain other airline?
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Old 24th Apr 2011, 08:47
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Very intriguing Joe.
Mackay Refueller?
I think that we ought to throw the question over to the Townsville Refueller, he is the font of all knowldege, his input would be correct and wise, his input invaluable !
Then again, perhaps Donalduck read they were a safe outfit when flicking through 'Australian Aviation' magazine ?

They haven't got a semi-recent history of bits dropping off their planes or catastrophic engine failures unlike a certain other airline?
Aagh that old chestnut I see. Because an airline hasn't had a major catastrophe that means they are automaticaly safe ? Old school safety thinking that one.
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Old 24th Apr 2011, 10:58
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If you want to ask that question, please start by defining safe.
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Old 24th Apr 2011, 11:05
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Safe enough that.. 'I myself would not have a problem taking a flight with them'...for a start.
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Old 25th Apr 2011, 14:33
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SAFE -
1. Secure from danger, harm, or evil.
2. Free from danger or injury; unhurt.
3. Free from risk, sure.
4. Affording protection.
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Old 25th Apr 2011, 21:34
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Unhappy People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

Gobbledock, in my view your point is very valid. However I am curious why Tiger gets a "show cause" with no known serious safety events, whilst JQ nearly crashes an A320 twice in as many years,(MEL G/A & DRW take off), has been found out over serious reporting failures, and now an alleged dodgy cadet scheme etc, and yet they don't get one. (that we know of anyway). Likewise all the QF engineering failures, A330 in flight upsets etc. Double standards perhaps? I wonder if there is some politics behind this that we are unaware of? Maybe Tiger is just an easier target during the senate do-da?

I still feel that this is about sending a message to the Tiger Execs that they need to resource their airline properly, rather than any immediate threat to passenger safety. And I would imagine the owners will do what ever it takes to save face over this...

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Old 26th Apr 2011, 12:25
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Tiger will self destruct.

I'd be amazed if this excuse for an airline is flying much longer, they are a bloody disgrace.

Here's what happened, booked flight YBSU - Melb weeks in advance, then a few days prior the flight simply cancelled to following day. Decided to rebook Jetstar for return trip.
The trip down following day was delayed continuously all day, so we just re booked Jetstar for trip down as well.
Still waiting on refund which will probably never happen.

They are a shambles and I cannot understand how SIA, an efficient and reputable airline can allow what is happening with Tiger. Do they REALLY know what is going on? Must be running at a massive loss, how much longer is SIA going to subsidise it.

Word must be getting around, you would have to be a moron to book with Tiger, shoddy service is one thing but safety is another. I will be sorry for the pilots and staff when the pin is finally pulled.
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 22:10
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Reckon we could start a book on whether CASA gets them before the corporate watchdog does.

Tardy Tiger fails to lodge accounts
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