Tiger Airways may faces being grounded after safety breaches
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I would have thought a comment from Tiger on their website may have been appropriate if they wanted to ensure some forward bookings.
Has Vanessa knocked off early for a long weekend?
I would have thought a comment from Tiger on their website may have been appropriate if they wanted to ensure some forward bookings.
Has Vanessa knocked off early for a long weekend?
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From Tiger Tales...Post 787 25/1/11
All spot on IMHO
While there are some great guys at TT they are seriously under resourced to the point that they are literally scraping by in their day to day operation, which is obviously not good enough. Its a big letdown for the guys and gals who have trusted their careers with TT.
The only person stopping the whole place from going under is the CP, hence so many cancelled flights due AOG. He is under huge pressure from management to do otherwise, and is to be applauded.Maintenance seriously has to be sorted out and for once I applaud this action as it will for once and for all solve this issue. There is no maintenance cover outside bases and very very suspect stuff going on at base with swapping u/s parts between a/c etc..
However CASA are as usual not solving the problem, but causing it. This operation has been approved by them. They are aware that this is a bare bones operation, grants an AOC then come back to shut it down. typical.
Hope it works out for the better.
'Scorcher' wrote....The months ahead will be pivotal for Tiger and potentially a litmus test for the viability of the LCC in Oz.
Consider one view of the current state of play:
Not a pretty picture.
Consider one view of the current state of play:
- Tiger constantly trying to appease an unhappy CASA
- A seriously unhappy workforce
- A failing EBA for pilots and a non existent EBA for cabin crew
- Inevitable industrial action
- Questions over engineering capability
- Aircraft flying around with up to 3 books of defects
- Reports of engineering breaches
- No engineering support for fleet during daylight hours except in MEL
- A newly acquired British management team with questionable ability and little workforce respect
- A new commercial director (Brit on visa) who hasn't shown up for work for over a month and has recently had his visa pulled
- The lowest on time performance of any Australian carrier-ever
- No safety department for 6 months
- Increasing numbers of pilots moving on to other pastures
- A new Qld base now on hold
- New aircraft for March no longer arriving
- A CEO apparently prepared to put ego ahead of sustainable business practice
- Operations being hamstrung at dealing with the increasing numbers of latent failures
- A ground handling agent unable to provide the required product due cost pressures
- Pilots self funding training
- Lowest industry pay rates
- Lowest industry terms and conditions
Not a pretty picture.
All spot on IMHO
While there are some great guys at TT they are seriously under resourced to the point that they are literally scraping by in their day to day operation, which is obviously not good enough. Its a big letdown for the guys and gals who have trusted their careers with TT.
The only person stopping the whole place from going under is the CP, hence so many cancelled flights due AOG. He is under huge pressure from management to do otherwise, and is to be applauded.Maintenance seriously has to be sorted out and for once I applaud this action as it will for once and for all solve this issue. There is no maintenance cover outside bases and very very suspect stuff going on at base with swapping u/s parts between a/c etc..
However CASA are as usual not solving the problem, but causing it. This operation has been approved by them. They are aware that this is a bare bones operation, grants an AOC then come back to shut it down. typical.
Hope it works out for the better.
Bogan
Yeah I guess you did hit a raw nerve on me - its the "stupid post" nerve.
You claim you never suggested QF/JQ has had to do with this issue - to quote you - "This has got QF/JQ written all over it."
"As i said. just my opinion and i would expect to be able to express it here and garner intelligent responses from most. you seem to be lacking that ability." Yeah mate, you are entitled to post your opinion, but if you post rubbish about this issue having QF/JQ written all over it then you are gunna get shot down. I reserve the right to take the shot.
Trev
Yeah I guess you did hit a raw nerve on me - its the "stupid post" nerve.
You claim you never suggested QF/JQ has had to do with this issue - to quote you - "This has got QF/JQ written all over it."
"As i said. just my opinion and i would expect to be able to express it here and garner intelligent responses from most. you seem to be lacking that ability." Yeah mate, you are entitled to post your opinion, but if you post rubbish about this issue having QF/JQ written all over it then you are gunna get shot down. I reserve the right to take the shot.
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+2 Trevor
Ahhh BM,
"New PPRUNE handle"? Check my join date mate. 'Nuff said. But you're right though, the c*@p you were talking DID motivate me to make my first post.
Anyway I'll second/third whatever Trevor said.
Pure gold from the bogan mover. "This has got QF written all over it" then "never suggested that".
BM, I think you might be confusing yourself here. Or you're trolling. If so, well played sir, ya got me.
"New PPRUNE handle"? Check my join date mate. 'Nuff said. But you're right though, the c*@p you were talking DID motivate me to make my first post.
Anyway I'll second/third whatever Trevor said.
Pure gold from the bogan mover. "This has got QF written all over it" then "never suggested that".
BM, I think you might be confusing yourself here. Or you're trolling. If so, well played sir, ya got me.
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All the above may be true, but at least it's given guys that were bashing around in chieftains 2 years ago an A320 command
Add up all the other issues and its not a pretty picture.
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This crap has been going on for years, CASA started auditing TT in 2009.
Its a shame that doubts against pilot training is bought up, what alot of sh!t. KB and his pilots are the most professional and experienced group you could come across. Its the experience up front that will put them ahead of any carrier in emergencies. Certainly no dodgy JQ schemes going on here.
What a PR disaster this has become. Perhaps this is the wakeup call Tony needs, start sending some $$ Melbourne way and get the place up to scratch!
Its a shame that doubts against pilot training is bought up, what alot of sh!t. KB and his pilots are the most professional and experienced group you could come across. Its the experience up front that will put them ahead of any carrier in emergencies. Certainly no dodgy JQ schemes going on here.
What a PR disaster this has become. Perhaps this is the wakeup call Tony needs, start sending some $$ Melbourne way and get the place up to scratch!
SOLUTION: New (another) Managing Director that is not one of Tony's friends.
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Ahh, i get it. you blokes are convieniently quoting my "qf/jq written all over it" post out of context.
It was a response to Trevs comment on my first post about "negative publicity" and what could be the rivals propaganda machine working the media into a frenzy.
For fark sake, if i have to spell it out for you....the show cause has expired. Tiger still operates. So CASA must be satisfied.
What do you think???? is the media just slightly over-reacting to something that is history already???
Fritz.
Who gives a rats when you registered the name? it's your FIRST post in 9 years. Been waiting a long time with that aye.
It was a response to Trevs comment on my first post about "negative publicity" and what could be the rivals propaganda machine working the media into a frenzy.
For fark sake, if i have to spell it out for you....the show cause has expired. Tiger still operates. So CASA must be satisfied.
What do you think???? is the media just slightly over-reacting to something that is history already???
Fritz.
Who gives a rats when you registered the name? it's your FIRST post in 9 years. Been waiting a long time with that aye.
Ok so I get it - your comment "this has QF/JQ written all over it" means the release of the details, not CASA's acting with the show cause, is that right? Well it doesn't read that way mate, but benefit of the doubt to you.
I think that is also highly likely, but not as dumb a statement as JQ/QF caused CASA to react. But I also doubt QF/JQ qould be doing the media releasing - but who really knows - not you or me.
Second issue (not having a shot at you - just playing your statement) Just because CASA ask to show cause and 21 days later Tiger still flies certainly is not proof positive that CASA has been satisfied. Face it, only those on the inside know, and all else is speculation. It is naively simplisitic to apply your argument of "well the're still flying, so CASA must be satisfied."
I think that is also highly likely, but not as dumb a statement as JQ/QF caused CASA to react. But I also doubt QF/JQ qould be doing the media releasing - but who really knows - not you or me.
Second issue (not having a shot at you - just playing your statement) Just because CASA ask to show cause and 21 days later Tiger still flies certainly is not proof positive that CASA has been satisfied. Face it, only those on the inside know, and all else is speculation. It is naively simplisitic to apply your argument of "well the're still flying, so CASA must be satisfied."
All the above may be true, but at least it's given guys that were bashing around in chieftains 2 years ago an A320 command
Dunno about that but it gave a command to a wally who trashed a Cheyanne at West Sale.
Dunno about that but it gave a command to a wally who trashed a Cheyanne at West Sale.
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Geez I love this place sometimes
"the show case has expired. Tiger still operates"
Tiger flights cancelled after safety concerns | Adelaide Now
Probably heard enough from you BM
Tiger flights cancelled after safety concerns | Adelaide Now
Probably heard enough from you BM
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Contempt....
On a higher level guys, I have experienced first hand the corporate tactics Singaporean management in an Australian (takeover) environment. Total contempt for our culture, ethics and I'll even go as far as saying laws.... Trust me, these guys are bad news such as companies like SP Ausnet and Singtel Optus..... Thank god the ASX takeover was quashed 
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Bogn Mover,
Love your work! 
Now let me see...the Show Cause does not have a life, it is merely a procedural step. Try reading Chapter 6 of:
http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...f/009rfull.pdf
So, what has expired is the time to submit a response
and the operator continues to operate while that response is considered
which has absolutely nothing to do with CASA being satisfied, which may take some time and involve multiple elements, sequential targets, lots of money and shetloads of hard work...
Stay Alive,
For fark sake, if i have to spell it out for you....the show cause has expired. Tiger still operates. So CASA must be satisfied.
Now let me see...the Show Cause does not have a life, it is merely a procedural step. Try reading Chapter 6 of:
http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...f/009rfull.pdf
So, what has expired is the time to submit a response
and the operator continues to operate while that response is considered
which has absolutely nothing to do with CASA being satisfied, which may take some time and involve multiple elements, sequential targets, lots of money and shetloads of hard work...
Stay Alive,
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Its a shame that doubts against pilot training is bought up, what alot of sh!t. KB and his pilots are the most professional and experienced group you could come across. Its the experience up front that will put them ahead of any carrier in emergencies. Certainly no dodgy JQ schemes going on here.
all experience, don't you ?
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Sorry Captain deluded, but other than the VB Embraer fleet Tiger would have some of the least experienced drivers in airline ops in Australia.
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i'll give'm a couple of months and the doors will be shut......
jq are training a massive amount of new captains at the moment...me thinks they have heard a whisper and are going to flood the market to prevent another LCC entering the market (air asia?)
jq are training a massive amount of new captains at the moment...me thinks they have heard a whisper and are going to flood the market to prevent another LCC entering the market (air asia?)