An opportunity not to be missed!
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An opportunity not to be missed!
An extract from a recent piece of paper that was slid out from under the door at the 'Bourke St Evil Lair'. Roped of queue's are being set up in the area... don't forget your clown costume.
Wide Body (A330) Opportunities – 6 months Extendable (Expendable?) as Operationally Required
Introduction
Due to commencement of SIN-AKL-SIN Wide Body Operations effective March 2011 and the need to cover some ‘short-term’ vacancies whilst training of the permanent first officers is completed, the following first officer opportunities are hereby advertised:
Ten (10) Wide Body First Officer vacancies (6 months extendable) – AKL base
Note 1:
A330 CCQ training is expected to commence across April 2011 & May 2011.
Note 2:
Successful applicants will be employed under local NZ terms and conditions for the duration of this Wide Body opportunity. At completion of this Wide Body Opportunity you will be trained back to Narrow Body flying.
Note 3:
To be eligible for Wide Body (A330) First Officer vacancies you must have a minimum of 500 hours flight time on Jetstar Group Narrow Body (A320) aircraft.
Note 4:
You may be required to enter into a training bond for this opportunity.
- My italics for added flare and visual effect.
Wide Body (A330) Opportunities – 6 months Extendable (Expendable?) as Operationally Required
Introduction
Due to commencement of SIN-AKL-SIN Wide Body Operations effective March 2011 and the need to cover some ‘short-term’ vacancies whilst training of the permanent first officers is completed, the following first officer opportunities are hereby advertised:
Ten (10) Wide Body First Officer vacancies (6 months extendable) – AKL base
Note 1:
A330 CCQ training is expected to commence across April 2011 & May 2011.
Note 2:
Successful applicants will be employed under local NZ terms and conditions for the duration of this Wide Body opportunity. At completion of this Wide Body Opportunity you will be trained back to Narrow Body flying.
Note 3:
To be eligible for Wide Body (A330) First Officer vacancies you must have a minimum of 500 hours flight time on Jetstar Group Narrow Body (A320) aircraft.
Note 4:
You may be required to enter into a training bond for this opportunity.
- My italics for added flare and visual effect.
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I think it's time we start letting the general public know what's going on via social media websites. If the Arabs can overthrow a government dictatorsip then surely we can overthrow rich fat cat CEO's with no regard to passenger safety and every regard to their back pockets! It's time we stopped this absolute piss take. These aircraft can't fly themselves, much to Bruce buchanans confusion.
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Once again I will say this, and for the VERY LAST TIME.
DON'T CONFUSE INDUSTRIAL ISSUES WITH SAFETY. IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL.
This is becoming the norm to just about every second thread on this forum of late.
DON'T CONFUSE INDUSTRIAL ISSUES WITH SAFETY. IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL.
This is becoming the norm to just about every second thread on this forum of late.
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Hi Krusty, not sure what the pay rates are, but looks like an opportunity to get the A330 CCQ (type rating) and perhaps more money for a period.
Who pays for the move to AKL?
What are the per diems? A temporary basing should result in per diems when away from your usual base.
Who pays for the move to AKL?
What are the per diems? A temporary basing should result in per diems when away from your usual base.
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Ditto what Norma said. What is happening here is disgusting for sure, but let's not confuse an industrial issue with a safety one. It's starting to wear thin.
Industrial and management, err sorry mis management issues do directly affect and cause safety issues. No confusion whatsoever.
They are 2 main areas that cause company systemic factors that directly contribute and often are at the start of the accident chain.
That has can be demonstrated in many past accidents.
Colgan for one.
They are 2 main areas that cause company systemic factors that directly contribute and often are at the start of the accident chain.
That has can be demonstrated in many past accidents.
Colgan for one.
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I was told yesterday that the Jet Star cadets who get farmed out to Jet Connect will be getting paid $23K Kiwi ...... is this for real?
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I was told yesterday that the Jet Star cadets who get farmed out to Jet Connect will be getting paid $23K Kiwi ...... is this for real?
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The only takers for this sandwich will be A320 F/O's currently based in NZ. For them it is a payrise and 6 months experience on a new A/C - not to mention the end of 4 sector, early start days.
No A320 guys based in Aus will take it up as it amount to a paycut along with a relocation without any allowances from the company. If they want to fly the A330 the opportunity is already there - based in Aus.
No A320 guys based in Aus will take it up as it amount to a paycut along with a relocation without any allowances from the company. If they want to fly the A330 the opportunity is already there - based in Aus.
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Mate, I don't quite know where you are getting the info that there will be a "pay rise" for the A320 pilots? As far as I can ascertain the T&C's are the same as the current NZ T&C's on the A320 contract. Bloody laughable!
As for the guys saying that Salary and safety should not be placed in the same basket, I've never heard such a load of crap!! It has a direct relationship. If you pay peanuts, you get inexperience, experience will go to where they are remunerated at the correct rate for a professional pilot. If you pay peanuts, you will get inexperience full stop, hence the safety issue. This crowd will take what they can get, experience is not a factor, who ever fills the seat and pays the money for the type rating.
For those guys that will use that classic old excuse, I need to feed my family, take a contract overseas, you can't use that excuse with the amount of jobs out there. Don't continue to f&$k our industry.
As for the guys saying that Salary and safety should not be placed in the same basket, I've never heard such a load of crap!! It has a direct relationship. If you pay peanuts, you get inexperience, experience will go to where they are remunerated at the correct rate for a professional pilot. If you pay peanuts, you will get inexperience full stop, hence the safety issue. This crowd will take what they can get, experience is not a factor, who ever fills the seat and pays the money for the type rating.
For those guys that will use that classic old excuse, I need to feed my family, take a contract overseas, you can't use that excuse with the amount of jobs out there. Don't continue to f&$k our industry.
Crikey F.M. Not even a 5% increase to fly an aircraft that's significantly larger! That's the modern airline mangement's modus operendi isn't it? It seems they are now trying to sell the "opportunity" on the basis of the endorsement alone, even though the expected recipients already work for the company!
What ratpoison said.
What ratpoison said.
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Krusty, even the "opportunity" to gain a 330 endorsement comes with a cost it would seem.
Note 4:
You may be required to enter into a training bond for this opportunity.
Australia's true CRO.
Note 4:
You may be required to enter into a training bond for this opportunity.
Australia's true CRO.
Are Jetstar "mainline" training personnel carrying out the simulator training for both these temporary A330 F/O's and the permanent Singapore based pilots?
If they are, they need to have a quick rethink as they are contributing to their own professional demise. There is no doubt that the offshore bases are aimed at killing off JQ Oz T & C's.
If they are, they need to have a quick rethink as they are contributing to their own professional demise. There is no doubt that the offshore bases are aimed at killing off JQ Oz T & C's.
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You reap what sow!.
If the guys in Jetstar had not been so gullible and believed that by undercutting QF mainline was going to guarantee job security and future aircraft you have all been sorely mistaken.
Once these bean-counters got a wiff of what a pathetic bunch of nadless softc*@Ks pilots unfortunately are,( that the pilots would take a job on less money, work harder, pay for their training, move anywhere and also pay for themselves their relocation costs) Did you think that they were just going to stop and say thanks? FFS!
You cannot be now surprised that the company are going to try this on again and again until eventually they only have a monkey and a banana sitting up front on a dollar a day. Meanwhile BB and AJ head off into the sunset hand in hand with their massive fat bonuses that came directly out of what was probably your wages.
This is what Australian aviation has now become, Enjoy!
or
STOP the ROT..............
If the guys in Jetstar had not been so gullible and believed that by undercutting QF mainline was going to guarantee job security and future aircraft you have all been sorely mistaken.
Once these bean-counters got a wiff of what a pathetic bunch of nadless softc*@Ks pilots unfortunately are,( that the pilots would take a job on less money, work harder, pay for their training, move anywhere and also pay for themselves their relocation costs) Did you think that they were just going to stop and say thanks? FFS!
You cannot be now surprised that the company are going to try this on again and again until eventually they only have a monkey and a banana sitting up front on a dollar a day. Meanwhile BB and AJ head off into the sunset hand in hand with their massive fat bonuses that came directly out of what was probably your wages.
This is what Australian aviation has now become, Enjoy!
or
STOP the ROT..............