Airlines cancelling a flight because it's not full?
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Hey Teresa - we never did that!
look at this video YouTube - T.A.A 1975
Not a U/S cargo door in sight in the days of the "Jetset"
look at this video YouTube - T.A.A 1975
Not a U/S cargo door in sight in the days of the "Jetset"
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Ahhhh, nope.
Different states have differing requirements, and in many instances the more restrictive legislation upon an operator is not the CAR's or the Act but the relevant State legislation/Act. In NSW - for argument sake, would be the Air Transport Act, which has the ability to place any condition (which includes minimum frequency) that it pleases on any route that the operator applies for as long as it isn't interstate/thru KSA/or to any of the listed deregulated ports, ie; a regulated route.
Transport NSW
Air Transport Act 1964 No 36
Which is one reason I was concerned when I found out that someone I know said there was nothing stopping an operator connecting a couple of dots on the map whenever and in whatever order they pleased....
If you feel like you might need something to combat insomnia on any level... DoIT (an oxymoron of an acronymn if ever there was one)....
The only 'rules' preventing the cancellation of a flight are the rules of Good Customer Service which, in my experience, appear to be non-binding on most Australian airlines (despite the fervent desires of the hard-working staff )
Different states have differing requirements, and in many instances the more restrictive legislation upon an operator is not the CAR's or the Act but the relevant State legislation/Act. In NSW - for argument sake, would be the Air Transport Act, which has the ability to place any condition (which includes minimum frequency) that it pleases on any route that the operator applies for as long as it isn't interstate/thru KSA/or to any of the listed deregulated ports, ie; a regulated route.
Transport NSW
Air Transport Act 1964 No 36
Which is one reason I was concerned when I found out that someone I know said there was nothing stopping an operator connecting a couple of dots on the map whenever and in whatever order they pleased....
If you feel like you might need something to combat insomnia on any level... DoIT (an oxymoron of an acronymn if ever there was one)....
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Thanks for that Lamination, made the heart miss a beat. Still what they told the public, had little to do with what actually happened! As in all airlines! Loved those aircraft. Best time ever. 
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Ah....thank goodness an aging and wistfully nostalgic Sherm had a headache and left work early so can let a tear or two fill the eye now without too many sniggersfrom the younger folk . That clip of the beautiful '9 and the heart stoppingly awesome 727 were just wonderful. Thanks DL for posting that. In '75 a very young Sherm had one year under his belt in the RHS of the '9, and learned in that time (and the next three years til moving to the right seat of the sheltered workshop) almost all of the basics that have kept Sherm alive, and Mrs. Sherm and the Shermettes fed, clothed and educated in the many years, bases, routes and types, since then.
The '9 was simply wonderful and they eventually gave me one of my own to play with! Being 35, naturally I knew it all! Then, topped that with a 727 to enjoy the best that aviation had to offer. Perfect pattern.....operate flight 4 MEL-PER, then deadhead back next day in the best first class service going on flight 5. Or, if flying back, sniffing an industrial strength tailwind, run it up to .89 ish to see if we could break the record. Or when F/O's wife had gone into labour and he wanted to get home, ADL-MEL in 52 minutes, chock to chock....climb 390 to 410/.87, cruise .88 and descend .88/390 for straight in '09. Or Ted Munro showing me how to enter downwind in DRW at 380kts in the -100.....
Deep sigh...time for a single malt on the balcony and a long stare over the South China Sea. Nothing could match that long-past time and that world. Not even matched by the thousands of hours and many years, in Sherm's beloved 777 in the deepest loneliest arctic night skies or the MD-80 with a wild-eyed innocent in the RHS during an approach in monsoon or heavy snow time in Asia.
Is Eddy Clark still around? I just must buy him a beer when next on leave if he is with us. How many men have ever built a fleet like he did. Or Ken Fox....where are their equals now?
I sometimes wonder whether '89 was the only way that world could have properly ended. It needed an abrupt cessation, lest it grow frail and old.
But....thread drift over....no airline has ever guaranteed a flight will operate. Passengers, since aviation time began, have always been well advised to book a much earlier flight if timing was vital. Nothing to do with deceptive practice at all. It's just the business, always has been.
The '9 was simply wonderful and they eventually gave me one of my own to play with! Being 35, naturally I knew it all! Then, topped that with a 727 to enjoy the best that aviation had to offer. Perfect pattern.....operate flight 4 MEL-PER, then deadhead back next day in the best first class service going on flight 5. Or, if flying back, sniffing an industrial strength tailwind, run it up to .89 ish to see if we could break the record. Or when F/O's wife had gone into labour and he wanted to get home, ADL-MEL in 52 minutes, chock to chock....climb 390 to 410/.87, cruise .88 and descend .88/390 for straight in '09. Or Ted Munro showing me how to enter downwind in DRW at 380kts in the -100.....
Deep sigh...time for a single malt on the balcony and a long stare over the South China Sea. Nothing could match that long-past time and that world. Not even matched by the thousands of hours and many years, in Sherm's beloved 777 in the deepest loneliest arctic night skies or the MD-80 with a wild-eyed innocent in the RHS during an approach in monsoon or heavy snow time in Asia.
Is Eddy Clark still around? I just must buy him a beer when next on leave if he is with us. How many men have ever built a fleet like he did. Or Ken Fox....where are their equals now?
I sometimes wonder whether '89 was the only way that world could have properly ended. It needed an abrupt cessation, lest it grow frail and old.
But....thread drift over....no airline has ever guaranteed a flight will operate. Passengers, since aviation time began, have always been well advised to book a much earlier flight if timing was vital. Nothing to do with deceptive practice at all. It's just the business, always has been.
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Oh stop it Sherm. Flying into DRW in the moonlight on the sexiest aircraft ever, the 9, looking forward to the feed at the Greek blokes in Smith St, the best tucker ever, then up to the DRW hotel for a few cleansing ales before a bit of a kip, and the beautiful girl waiting on the tarmac for her crew, sob, and they PAID us to enjoy her company. Lucky us.
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In Europe we have laws against that kind of thing, EU Regulation 261/2004 to be precise. Commercial cancellations carry the same penalty as bumping overbooked passengers – compensation of €250 short-haul, €400 medium-haul and €600 long-haul, no quibbles. Except that of course the airlines call it a tech problem and therefore outside their control. But there’s an ambulance-chasing law firm which tracks the daily operation of every individual aircraft and will fight claimants’ cases for a trifling 27% of the settlement plus €25.
Nice to see lawyerrs prospering, by doing no more than protecting the interests of their clients.
Nice to see lawyerrs prospering, by doing no more than protecting the interests of their clients.
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Had a colleague that engaged in dialogue with an LCC when his flight was cancelled. The airline stated that the penalties weren't payable as it was a technical safety issue. Either a lightning strike or catering truck. However, eagle eyed Dave spotted the hte Stansted and Milan aircraft had been swapped. The flight to Stansted duly cancelled and the flight to Italy went ahead. Therefore Dave was able to state that it was a commercial decision to swap aircraft and cancel the Stansted flight to resolve the technical/safety issue with the Milan flight. (A number of people used to carry a copy of 261/2004.) He was told to **** off, but got his compensation.
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Have just had familys flight cancalled from nz to aus on DJ direct service. one month out the call centre lady of asian accent claimed it was due to engine problems, but the air nz flight at the same time is charging full price, is this a scam.
