QF Depressurization
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Mid Air incident, nobody hurt, job well done. Let's now leave it to QF/ATSB to work out what happened and not become armchair experts as usual?
As for morons not knowing if it was for real or a mistake..... they should have their supply removed. They are O2 thieves.
Perhaps airlines should start requiring you as a pax to pay for and complete a cabin safety course once every two years or similar. Sounds like a great business to be in
.Heck, most industrial sites like mines, power stations and factories, construction sites, they all require a safety induction and they are only valid for 3/6/12 months depending on the site and the level required for you to enter their workplace.
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Something is rotten down at the big Q. So many incidents, one hot on the heels of the other, can no longer be deemed as having a bad run.
Surely the senior management down there must be noticing this trend???
Surely the senior management down there must be noticing this trend???
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Maybe given the pax comments it would be worth evaluating the new safety demo video - saw it the other day going to Perth and the info is all over the place.
One of the CC told me they are not happy with it and it misses some detail such as exit lights (I'll have to watch it again to check)
Was glad however that John Travolta no longer has Q insignias on his uniform though - hate to think that they might mistake me for him.....!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Ch 9 reporter (Chloe?? Somebody??) did seem more rattled than the pax
One of the CC told me they are not happy with it and it misses some detail such as exit lights (I'll have to watch it again to check)
Was glad however that John Travolta no longer has Q insignias on his uniform though - hate to think that they might mistake me for him.....!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Ch 9 reporter (Chloe?? Somebody??) did seem more rattled than the pax
Gas Bags - AJ may not be loved by all on this forum. However, he is a very clever mathematician, by profession, and must be thinking about this issue in terms of probability theory. If he is not - he should be.
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Gas Bags - AJ may not be loved by all on this forum. However, he is a very clever mathematician, by profession, and must be thinking about this issue in terms of probability theory. If he is not - he should be.
How many times does Olivia have to explain that each event is just an isolated incident?
I just heard someone from QF (think it was Olivia) on the radio say something along the lines of "The airconditioning failed and the aircarft lost pressure, it made a rapid descent from 35,000 to 10,000 which took about 5 mins. At 14,000ft the oxygen masks automatically deployed as a safety feature etc."
Now I only have a basic understanding of pressurisation (sp?) from CPL systems, but having a decompression at FL350 and not having oxygen masks deploy untill FL140 seems a tad redundant to me.
I imagine what actually happens is that the masks deploy at a cabin altitude of 14,000 and so actually deployed with the aircraft either at or near FL350 following decompression.
My general point is how do we expect the media to get anything even half right if the people making statements from the actual airline involved can't give a simple, correct description of the event?
(If for some reason the masks actually deploy for some reason descending through FL140 this post can be ignored.)
P.S. I am aware that posting is in direct contradiction to my username.
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Now I only have a basic understanding of pressurisation (sp?) from CPL systems, but having a decompression at FL350 and not having oxygen masks deploy untill FL140 seems a tad redundant to me.
I imagine what actually happens is that the masks deploy at a cabin altitude of 14,000 and so actually deployed with the aircraft either at or near FL350 following decompression.
My general point is how do we expect the media to get anything even half right if the people making statements from the actual airline involved can't give a simple, correct description of the event?
(If for some reason the masks actually deploy for some reason descending through FL140 this post can be ignored.)
P.S. I am aware that posting is in direct contradiction to my username.
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According to Ninemsn, this was a "De-compressurisation" with passengers noting that the cabin crew were "holding their noses" and 'panicing'.... which would have nothing to do with avoiding barotrauma
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I just watched the 9 news report off ninemsn.
When are journalists in this country going to speak to someone that has even the remotest idea (no not GT..) before coming up with their concocted rubbish stories. Its amateur hour on their best day with their A game.
Passengers that had no idea why the masks had fallen.. Well they need to have a hard look in the mirror and check if their ears and eyes are painted on. If so need to speak with their parents promptly. The safety demo isn't some sort of Jerry Seinfeld stand comedy up routine and neither are the safety cards in the front of the seat pockets.
Is it just me is the average person getting dumber and dumber.
Good job to those in pointy end.
When are journalists in this country going to speak to someone that has even the remotest idea (no not GT..) before coming up with their concocted rubbish stories. Its amateur hour on their best day with their A game.
Passengers that had no idea why the masks had fallen.. Well they need to have a hard look in the mirror and check if their ears and eyes are painted on. If so need to speak with their parents promptly. The safety demo isn't some sort of Jerry Seinfeld stand comedy up routine and neither are the safety cards in the front of the seat pockets.
Is it just me is the average person getting dumber and dumber.
Good job to those in pointy end.
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Oh dear, Yawn.
Non Normal situation, crew recovered and landed without incident.
So where's the problem??
Non Normal situation, crew recovered and landed without incident.
So where's the problem??
I'll tell you "where's the problem" from the passengers' point of view. Aircraft goes into high speed high rate of descent dive along with noise of typical depressurisation, with air condensing in the cabin and a rubber jungle dropping on passenger noggins and flight attendants probably shouting over the PA unintelligble instructions.
Alarmed passengers wonder what the hell is going on and ask the flight attendants who reply "Where's the problem??"
You must be joking...
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Is it just me is the average person getting dumber and dumber. 
Qantas must be keeping the ATSB in full time employment for the next few years at this rate. Another failure at SYD last week or so. Latest Flight Safety Mag has ATSB SFO failure, Explosive decomp., A380 EF, and 1 more I think.
If this site was indeed for professional pilots to air their concerns (or rumours) and not uneducated then the only discussion would be, "did the crew conduct the non-normal as prescribed and if not why'? Seems here the crew(as judged by outcome) did a commendable job.
To those who are not professional pilots and think there is a problem do some research and determine the efficacy/reliability of pressurisation systems in aircraft. They are extremely reliable but not flawless, occasionally the system will fail and then good training and competent crew should ensure a succesful outcome....... that by the way is what we have seen today.
Before you reach for the keyboard and rant spend a minute and reach a considered opinion.
Oh, and I don't operate Qf aircraft(just so bias can be ruled out).
To those who are not professional pilots and think there is a problem do some research and determine the efficacy/reliability of pressurisation systems in aircraft. They are extremely reliable but not flawless, occasionally the system will fail and then good training and competent crew should ensure a succesful outcome....... that by the way is what we have seen today.
Before you reach for the keyboard and rant spend a minute and reach a considered opinion.
Oh, and I don't operate Qf aircraft(just so bias can be ruled out).
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The one I like the best is the Blond on the 9 News stating that as soon as the aircraft was stable at 10, 000' , "I called home and let me friends know that I was alright". (please forgive for lack of Bogan typing).
Now is the Airline or C@#sA going to chase her for breach of use of a mobile device, or will they say it was due duress?
Now is the Airline or C@#sA going to chase her for breach of use of a mobile device, or will they say it was due duress?
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for all you heros out there,i challange u to say you would have no problems to sit on a flight that has just gone through that sequence of events,i as a former LAME would not, nor would i be happy for any of my family too.QANTAS is a air disaster waitting to happen.
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