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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 06:05
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In my opinion money isn't everything, but it does help taking a lot of crap or getting through all lthe bull****e that occurs around the work place.
Who has the better terms and conditions those at VB/VT or QF?
30k is a lot of money difference but is there better conditions a QF?
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 06:38
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Scrap the whole wage structure and start over. A salary that includes all penalties and allowances that doesn't discriminate between pre or post July96 employees would be a good start!
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In my opinion money isn't everything,
And I notice your location "is under a rock" Quite clearly this is true.

It is, however, way above whatever is in second place.
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 11:49
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I think the best move forward is for a salary much the same as VT. A base of say 120K, 5-10K for each additional type and first class staff travel for engineers with 20+ years service.

QF has many more types than VB so a guy with 6 types would be 145K-170K.

Its a little bit of a joke that a level 8 LAME gets less money than a CSM, SO and some flight attendants i know. We also have a problem that the divide between licence and non-licence is too little.
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Old 4th Jan 2011, 05:14
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On top of the wage difference between VB and QF, VB get 6 weeks annual leave per annum.

I think QF only get 5 weeks??? Can anyone confirm???

This is another substantial advantage at VB if the figures are correct.

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Old 4th Jan 2011, 05:44
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VB do get 6 weeks leave but they dont accrue DILs.
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Thanks MELKBQF I was unaware of that.

What is a DIL and how are they accrued?

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Old 4th Jan 2011, 07:10
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What is a DIL and how are they accrued?
Correct term is D.I.L.P.H.

Day In Lieu of Public Holiday.

If you work a public holiday you get the appropriate penalty rate, if you don't work it you get a DIL.

Or on rosters where you are paid an average penalty rate, half are in your pay and half accrued. (6 DIL per year).
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Old 5th Jan 2011, 06:50
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Hello All,
Interesting discussion here as i sit in the back corner thinking of what used to be paradise in Perth!!
One thing to remember that everybody in our aviation world has a price and as we would like to think that we are all aviation professionals striving for the ultimate goal of a safety culture. Truth is we are not all equal and you only get what you pay for. If you invest wisely in your staff the company will reap the rewards however the cost of hi staff turnover due to low salaries i am sure will cost dearly in the long run.
Just a little food for thought.
Seasons greetings and safe aviating to all!
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 01:52
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Hi Guys

Just noticed that the Avionics positions at Perth have been withdrawn......

Anyone know the reason

Thanks and wishing everyone a Happy New Year
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 07:54
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Maybe the local management realised they had enough AV guys to keep the chairs warm in winter

That or they realised they can get two mech guys and 4 times the work output for the price of 1
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 08:20
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That or they realised they can get two mech guys and 4 times the work output for the price of 1
Maybe. But still only half the brains.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 09:59
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Fed Sec , having been around and aware of the hughe increases your members got over other unionists , i can understand how uncomfortable you might feel . But the fact is your Association signed up to a long term deal , it might be uncomfortable for you now to acknowledge that , and for better or worse you are stuck with it . However , you might acknowledge how you shafte dother unions back then to get your deal , and if you feel so strongly maybe you could forgo a bit for the aircraft cleaners you so often rubbish.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 10:46
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Fed Sec , having been around and aware of the hughe increases your members got over other unionists , i can understand how uncomfortable you might feel . But the fact is your Association signed up to a long term deal , it might be uncomfortable for you now to acknowledge that , and for better or worse you are stuck with it . However , you might acknowledge how you shafte dother unions back then to get your deal , and if you feel so strongly maybe you could forgo a bit for the aircraft cleaners you so often rubbish.
If you knew anything, other unions benefited from the ALAEA securing a 5% pay increase. The AME's for example, all flavours were offered from the get go the same deal as the ALAEA with no pain at all.

I still don't know how one union can shaft another. The ALAEA didn't poach anyone and we didn't get a pay rise in lieu of anyone else. We were so far into an expired agreement - the tactic used by the previous management regime (who are literally all gone now for the damage they have done) to wear us down as a collective to accept a crap deal - that all of a sudden we find ourselves with an expired agreement... again.

Besides, this is a Perth Line Maintenance jobs thread, not a unionist1974
'backwheniwasaboymenweremen'. Get over it mate, your time is up, retire and enjoy your life instead of trolling internet forums.
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 05:23
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Methinks the sun hits the yard arm pretty early down at 1974's place!!
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 07:08
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And that the ALAEA has so far been the only union recently standing up against de management and having a sucessful crack.And getting a few wins.

If the other unions didnt get more than 3% in their last EBA,its only got their own members to blame for not taking PIA like the LAMEs.

If you don't try,you will never ever know.

Plus Unionist1974,you sound like a windup merchant more than anything.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 08:51
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Hello Kylie
My friends in PER say you have applied to go back.Cant be that bad eh!!!
Good Luck.
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 09:53
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Cairns DMM's strike again

I heard on the grape vine than an ex CNS lame that was forced out of the company back in 2007 has applied for the Perth position.

He failed to even get a letter of acknowledgement, even though he was one of the best engineers in CNS.

Maybee he didnt have the correct licences but im sure, 747 2/300 747-400+ER ,767-300+ZX, A330, A340, A320/321,737 3/400 & NG should be enough for an interview.

Obvoiusly he is still being blocked for employment.

Well done boys drive someone out of a job then do everything you can to make sure he doesnt work for any other airline not just Q!!
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Old 12th Jan 2011, 10:50
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Unfortunately for him, some managers still maintain their own buggery campaigns.
The man, DB?, was a great lame, something his manager never was or ever will be.
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