QF DFW in - SFO out
"probably" walk off in Nadi due fatigue?
There has been a lot of work done before the services commenced so it should be a reasonably reliable operation - time will tell.
Ultralights,
I'm as disgusted as the next employee at what is being done but I'm powerless to do anything but watch this macabre train wreck unfold.
My hypothesis was offered as an explanation for the gross [read wilful] mismanagement of a company that all Australians could once, justifiably feel proud of. [and work for I might add]
I don't think BTW that I'm too far off the mark.......
I'm as disgusted as the next employee at what is being done but I'm powerless to do anything but watch this macabre train wreck unfold.
My hypothesis was offered as an explanation for the gross [read wilful] mismanagement of a company that all Australians could once, justifiably feel proud of. [and work for I might add]
I don't think BTW that I'm too far off the mark.......
So capped flights at 280-300, no freight, and the expense of a stopover not to mention the extra fuel....
SFO must have been doing really bad or something because I fail to see how this could do better
SFO must have been doing really bad or something because I fail to see how this could do better
After watching the incredibly tasteful DFW launch on TV the other night it reminded me of the old VB tackiness that used to go on a few years ago.
Then the awful truth dawned on me. Alan Joyce is really just Brett Godefrey kneeling down...
Then the awful truth dawned on me. Alan Joyce is really just Brett Godefrey kneeling down...
Qantas leaves baggage behind in Dallas... deliberately - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller
Like we never warned them this route was pushing the 744ER. Another way to piss off what loyal QF pax remain
And today's QF7 didnt even make it into DFW. Diverted to IAH due weather.
Like we never warned them this route was pushing the 744ER. Another way to piss off what loyal QF pax remain
And today's QF7 didnt even make it into DFW. Diverted to IAH due weather.
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When you live....
The plan
So QF have ditched SFO for DFW.
With, as has already been demonstrated, very marginal margains!
Give it 6 months then watch for the route to be dropped because it can't make a profit/affects reliability/poor customer feedback.
Meanwhile J* will have slid-on in to SFO - checkmate!
UTR
With, as has already been demonstrated, very marginal margains!
Give it 6 months then watch for the route to be dropped because it can't make a profit/affects reliability/poor customer feedback.
Meanwhile J* will have slid-on in to SFO - checkmate!
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Oh Dear, It's got winner written all over it.Man,what are they smoking!
On the surface at least, it lends weight too some of the arguments i've read on pprune regarding crisis management at QF.
Still remember as a child,traveling to the UK in the 60's,barley sugar, round overhead cabin lights of the early 707's,flying with dad around tahiti in a Baron to film approaches for the sim in syd.
Glory day's
On the surface at least, it lends weight too some of the arguments i've read on pprune regarding crisis management at QF.
Still remember as a child,traveling to the UK in the 60's,barley sugar, round overhead cabin lights of the early 707's,flying with dad around tahiti in a Baron to film approaches for the sim in syd.
Glory day's
Can anybody look up the loads on QF8 on 21 May? Even pax numbers would be useful for the sake of curiosity...
The way I see it this route will never make money if they have to reduce loads to operate. If they keep selling every seat on the plane and bouncing pax and bags this is going to do even more damage.
Oh wait the 787 would be better on this route. Lets use those - oh hang on JQ has them - yeah let them do the SFO and DFW routes
The way I see it this route will never make money if they have to reduce loads to operate. If they keep selling every seat on the plane and bouncing pax and bags this is going to do even more damage.
Oh wait the 787 would be better on this route. Lets use those - oh hang on JQ has them - yeah let them do the SFO and DFW routes
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If they had the 777 this route would actually be viable, unfortunately beancounters dont actually appreciate the operational aspect.. laughing myself to sleep with this failure again! 744ER haha come on who actually believes it is possible? This will be a nightmare of diversions esp due Dallas weather.
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Hey Allan Did We Make(another) Mistake
Gee AJ did anyone do an analysis of this route?
Do you think we should go back to SFO?
What's that you say?
We might look foolish?
But Allan.......we already look foolish from all the other mistakes we've made
Do you think we should go back to SFO?
What's that you say?
We might look foolish?
But Allan.......we already look foolish from all the other mistakes we've made
1a sound asleep. The current B787 payload/range is not as good as Boeing originally projected due to a higher EOW. The only a/c that can "do the job" DFW - SYD nonstop is the B777-200LR.
If DL wanted to embarass QF they could operate their B777-200LR ATL - SYD nonstop with a full payload instead of LAX - SYD.
If DL wanted to embarass QF they could operate their B777-200LR ATL - SYD nonstop with a full payload instead of LAX - SYD.
They are trying to destroy Qantas and get the sale act rescinded.
When that happens they will take Qantas private.
After that watch the airline stage a "simply amazing" turnaround, but of course since it will then be a private company, you won't get to find out.....
If you want to understand how business works in this country, look no further than Crown (Packer) today hiring Karl Bitar, former secretary of the Labor party.
When that happens they will take Qantas private.
After that watch the airline stage a "simply amazing" turnaround, but of course since it will then be a private company, you won't get to find out.....
If you want to understand how business works in this country, look no further than Crown (Packer) today hiring Karl Bitar, former secretary of the Labor party.
Here is one I made earlier-
t's pretty obvious why Borghetti wasn't given the job........
No need to have the skills required to run a full service airline when you don't intent doing so.
Don't give it a second thought.
It's pretty obvious to those of us at the coal face that QF management's agenda is to destroy the airline by design.
A couple of years and their mission will be complete.
All to get around the Qantas sales act I suspect.
I liken the situation whereby a property developer has a "listed" property in their portfolio with severe heritage type restrictions on what can be done with it.
They neglect the property's upkeep and general maintenance to such an extent that it can no longer feasibly be redeveloped short of complete demolition.
This of course being the desired outcome anyway.
Google "demolition by neglect", there's plenty of instances like this.
QF is being "managed" in exactly the same way with the QF sales act equating to a, "heritage listing".
Think about it and tell me I'm wrong.
Someone..........
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The following link is the second google result for "demolition by neglect" and outlines the scenario perfectly.......
Demolition by Neglect | Connecticut Trust For Historic Preservation
It's pretty obvious to those of us at the coal face that QF management's agenda is to destroy the airline by design.
A couple of years and their mission will be complete.
All to get around the Qantas sales act I suspect.
I liken the situation whereby a property developer has a "listed" property in their portfolio with severe heritage type restrictions on what can be done with it.
They neglect the property's upkeep and general maintenance to such an extent that it can no longer feasibly be redeveloped short of complete demolition.
This of course being the desired outcome anyway.
Google "demolition by neglect", there's plenty of instances like this.
QF is being "managed" in exactly the same way with the QF sales act equating to a, "heritage listing".
Think about it and tell me I'm wrong.
Someone..........
__________
The following link is the second google result for "demolition by neglect" and outlines the scenario perfectly.......
Demolition by Neglect | Connecticut Trust For Historic Preservation
t's pretty obvious why Borghetti wasn't given the job........
No need to have the skills required to run a full service airline when you don't intent doing so.
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