PERTH: It's All Going To Happen...
Try out Cairns Terminal
Before all of you really complain too much about Perth's terminal you should go as a passenger to and from Cairns Airport.
It is a bloody shambles and an utter disgrace.
I have never seen such a disfunctional Terminal in all of my many years flying and travelling.
Sure Perth is not too flash but it's one hell of a lot better that Cairns.
That does not excuse the authorities from improving Perth but at least you know you are far from the worst International Airport/ Domestic Airport in Australia.
It is a bloody shambles and an utter disgrace.
I have never seen such a disfunctional Terminal in all of my many years flying and travelling.
Sure Perth is not too flash but it's one hell of a lot better that Cairns.
That does not excuse the authorities from improving Perth but at least you know you are far from the worst International Airport/ Domestic Airport in Australia.
I think young Geoffrey has certain alliances/agendas
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500 mil spend, yeah right.
This will be one project that will probably go UNDER-budget.
I started work at the "field" circa 1980 and had seen changes to the current plan going from that time until 1984, then terminating with the current mess (plan) unchanged from 1988 until the present time. Actually thats not true, there was the much celebrated (though invisible and unused) $2.3 million smokers shed installed last year somewhere.
late and under budget
This will be one project that will probably go UNDER-budget.
I started work at the "field" circa 1980 and had seen changes to the current plan going from that time until 1984, then terminating with the current mess (plan) unchanged from 1988 until the present time. Actually thats not true, there was the much celebrated (though invisible and unused) $2.3 million smokers shed installed last year somewhere.
late and under budget
Sorry to add some facts to the debate...https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/BUIL...GatewayWA.aspx
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RodH,
What do you have against Cairns airport?
I use it frequently and have no issues with it both terminals are quick to get to gate area and screening lines are fairly short and when exiting both have a taxi line 100m from the door. Its a hassle free airport now the refurb is all done.
What do you have against Cairns airport?
I use it frequently and have no issues with it both terminals are quick to get to gate area and screening lines are fairly short and when exiting both have a taxi line 100m from the door. Its a hassle free airport now the refurb is all done.
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It is owned by the federal government but is leased to Perth Airport P/L. Albanese is the landlord...complain to him and you will get a nice letter from someone saying the Minister has asked them to reply on his behalf 
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TIMA9x, I guess Alan didn't receive the Ross Garnaut memo on China & the future of the resources boom from the day before the announcement.
The Ross Garnaut Peter Jonson podcast is here (accompanying chartpack: Monetary Policy Ross Garnaut Uni Melb 240513v1.pdf - chart 19 Tourism is interesting, and shows the massive decline for inbound tourism over the last 10 years).
Interesting contrast between the two views on the future, and only one can be right.
The Ross Garnaut Peter Jonson podcast is here (accompanying chartpack: Monetary Policy Ross Garnaut Uni Melb 240513v1.pdf - chart 19 Tourism is interesting, and shows the massive decline for inbound tourism over the last 10 years).
Interesting contrast between the two views on the future, and only one can be right.
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It never ceases to amaze me how people fail to see the difference between construction (of minesites) and actual mining. It all just gets lumped into one big bucket. You can't keep building new stuff forever, but, when the mines are all operational, guess what? They still employ a lot of people. Not as many as that short construction phase, but that's the nature of construction. Even down to the social implications-- a lot of the criticism thrown at "miners" re behaviour on flights, in camps, etc, is down to construction workers, building minesites. There is a world of difference between construction camps and established mine camps, believe me.
Anyway, back on topic. When the building is done, the mines operate. They still put a lot of bums on aircraft seats. And will continue to do so. A more accurate description would be "THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION BOOM IS NEARING ITS END"
Anyway, back on topic. When the building is done, the mines operate. They still put a lot of bums on aircraft seats. And will continue to do so. A more accurate description would be "THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION BOOM IS NEARING ITS END"
I recently read an article that said a certain gas plant required 3000 workers to build it but once they start producing gas it only takes 30 workers per shift to run it!!!!I think in anyone's terms that is a big difference in manning levels between the construction and operational phases!!!
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Yes, that is one valid example, but I can give another equally valid one. Around a thousand people, maybe, were employed during the construction of the mine I work on. Although not all at the same time. Now the mine is working, we have ( at last count) nearly 800 full time employees. All being flown in and out, either 9/5 or 2/1. And the multiplier effect--a significant proportion of those people don't live in Perth. So they have to be flown TO Perth, either from the WA regions (my case) , or from other parts of Australia. And then, some of those who have to join a flight at the capital city of their state, actually do a regional flight within their state to get to the capital city. Do you see what I am getting at?
The projected life of this mine is another 25 years, barring further discoveries within the lease, or available nearby, with extended infrastructure. Oil and gas do not tend to be big direct employers in the production phase, more technology-intensive. But those 30 people need a lot in the way of support industry, particularly if the site is offshore.
The high point of the construction phase may be past, now we will settle into a production phase(but the capex won't stop dead, believe me.)
The projected life of this mine is another 25 years, barring further discoveries within the lease, or available nearby, with extended infrastructure. Oil and gas do not tend to be big direct employers in the production phase, more technology-intensive. But those 30 people need a lot in the way of support industry, particularly if the site is offshore.
The high point of the construction phase may be past, now we will settle into a production phase(but the capex won't stop dead, believe me.)
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Maybe you should get your facts right as well.
Gorgon: construction finishes in 2-3 yrs requirement for 4 a/c will fall to 1.5.
Wheatstone: when it's finished will face similar falls. Operations require around only 1/3 of the number of workers as the construction phase.
Gorgon: construction finishes in 2-3 yrs requirement for 4 a/c will fall to 1.5.
Wheatstone: when it's finished will face similar falls. Operations require around only 1/3 of the number of workers as the construction phase.