Is jetstar about to operate illegally in NZ?
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So, NZ pay rates on Australian tax + $85K (missed out on the 20K discount) for an A320 endorsement and in debt to their employer for 6 years.
As an aside I just noticed the ACP has been dropped to $64K, where it was previously ~85K. However $43K is now payable upfront.
I wonder how smart these pilot feel now. Chicks may dig the uniform, they don't dig poverty.
As an aside I just noticed the ACP has been dropped to $64K, where it was previously ~85K. However $43K is now payable upfront.
I wonder how smart these pilot feel now. Chicks may dig the uniform, they don't dig poverty.
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Sid-star, I suggest you you read the entire post.
c) ANZA activities in New Zealand authorised by Australian
AOCs with ANZA privileges.
Section 28BD Compliance with civil aviation law
(1) The holder of an AOC must comply with all requirements of this
Act, the regulations and the Civil Aviation Orders that apply to the
holder.
(2) The holder of an Australian AOC with ANZA privileges must
comply with all requirements of the Civil Aviation Act 1990 of
New Zealand, and of the regulations and rules under that Act, that
apply to the holder in relation to the ANZA activities in New
Zealand authorised by the AOC.
c) ANZA activities in New Zealand authorised by Australian
AOCs with ANZA privileges.
Section 28BD Compliance with civil aviation law
(1) The holder of an AOC must comply with all requirements of this
Act, the regulations and the Civil Aviation Orders that apply to the
holder.
(2) The holder of an Australian AOC with ANZA privileges must
comply with all requirements of the Civil Aviation Act 1990 of
New Zealand, and of the regulations and rules under that Act, that
apply to the holder in relation to the ANZA activities in New
Zealand authorised by the AOC.
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Anybody know if they are going to get an exemption to this rule from "Dear Director"??
It would seem to be quite clear that sending cadets to NZ with less than 500 hrs total and less than 100 ATO would be in clear violation of Rule 121.511...
It would seem to be quite clear that sending cadets to NZ with less than 500 hrs total and less than 100 ATO would be in clear violation of Rule 121.511...
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Does anyone have a copy of the NZ employment contracts for Jetconnect or Jetstar?
I am not interested in the dollar values or any personal information so these can be obliterated I am more interested in how and on what basis salaries are calculated.
If they are authored in the same manner in which the cadet contract is then JQ and QF may very well have a huge problem coming their way.
I need copies of these contracts before I can publish any further information credibly.
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The Kelpie
I am not interested in the dollar values or any personal information so these can be obliterated I am more interested in how and on what basis salaries are calculated.
If they are authored in the same manner in which the cadet contract is then JQ and QF may very well have a huge problem coming their way.
I need copies of these contracts before I can publish any further information credibly.
Cheers
The Kelpie
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Cypher
I have been lead to believe that JQ Cadets are going to undertake their 3 month line training at an Australian Base on New Zealand Salary supplemented by Living away allowances as they are strictly speaking NZ Based.
This line training will, I am told get them above the 100 hours as required by the NZ regs. Once they achieve this level of experience and are checked to line they will return to their NZ base.
The story after being checked to line is a a little more fuzzy but I am trying to find out more.
Cheers
The Kelpie
I have been lead to believe that JQ Cadets are going to undertake their 3 month line training at an Australian Base on New Zealand Salary supplemented by Living away allowances as they are strictly speaking NZ Based.
This line training will, I am told get them above the 100 hours as required by the NZ regs. Once they achieve this level of experience and are checked to line they will return to their NZ base.
The story after being checked to line is a a little more fuzzy but I am trying to find out more.
Cheers
The Kelpie
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Perhaps not
http://www.caa.govt.nz/rules/Exemptions/8_EXE_63.pdf
Not sure how this applies but looks like they need 500 hours total and 100 multi or turbine
Not sure how this applies but looks like they need 500 hours total and 100 multi or turbine
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Craka
That is OK for the Advanced Programme as all of the ACP cadets enrolled with over 500TT (also refer to my previous post).
Not quite sure how they are going to get the Ab-Initio guys up to those experience levels. Maybe they will get them to the end of the course and then just tell them to go away and find something themselves to build hours and come back and join the queue when you have the 500 hours. This sounds a familiar strategy!!
Maybe the Ab-initio guys were never intended to be based in NZ from the outset - just paid like New Zealanders!!
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The Kelpie
That is OK for the Advanced Programme as all of the ACP cadets enrolled with over 500TT (also refer to my previous post).
Not quite sure how they are going to get the Ab-Initio guys up to those experience levels. Maybe they will get them to the end of the course and then just tell them to go away and find something themselves to build hours and come back and join the queue when you have the 500 hours. This sounds a familiar strategy!!
Maybe the Ab-initio guys were never intended to be based in NZ from the outset - just paid like New Zealanders!!
Cheers
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Thats about it, having gone through Ansett NZ and subsequently Jetconnect, I just got sick of being used as cheap labour by Australian companies. I have moved on.
NZ labour laws have always been way more "employer friendly" than Australia and with the exchange rate advantage... Its no wonder that we now have Jetconnect, Jetstar, Virgin (pacific) blue all over in NZ screwing the kiwi airline industry and taking the profits back to Aussie.
NZ labour laws have always been way more "employer friendly" than Australia and with the exchange rate advantage... Its no wonder that we now have Jetconnect, Jetstar, Virgin (pacific) blue all over in NZ screwing the kiwi airline industry and taking the profits back to Aussie.
