Qantas Sells 767s

[AnQrKa]

"...after yet another of the jets was found to have made multiple inter city flights with defective emergency door slides."

As did some QF 767's. But thats not important is it.

[Aerozepplin]

One of the pylon cracks had grown to a stage where it could have broken apart, dropping the engine off the wing.

but it may not receive that much-delayed plastic jet until 2015

Cool

[gate4]

So Qantas wet leased a 767 to fly freight from Aus to NZ and back while it parked aircraft and crew up, now it is going to sell 3 of its 767s to the same company so it can wet lease them back to fly freight?

Qantas made major changes to its schedule in 2009 at the same time it introduced Jetstar (LCC) to the NZ Domestic Market and International Market ex AKL. The reshuffle of aircraft, flights and routes saw widebodies exit the Trans Tasman market and smaller 737-800s & A320's take over. The ATI B767-200 provides support for pallet sized cargo out of AKL and CHC across the Tasman. From next month July Qantas will operate A330s into AKL across from SYD and back on a 6x weekly basis to allow for the aircraft to operate to LAX ex AKL. I would say A330s alongside the ATI B767 will be enough capacity cargo wise on TT. ATI could swap it's current B767-200 on lease to QF for an ex QF B767-300 in the future and operate the rest of its B767Fs it gains and has else where worldwide on behalf of other airlines not just Qantas.

I wouldn't be surprised if DHL team up with ATI for use of a B767-300F once VH-DHE B727F is sent away for good.

[captwawa]

Below 10million i guess considering the other 767s on this link for sale

Aircraft For Sale At Controller.com - Page 1

[another superlame]

Just a thought, but I believe these 767s are already in storage in Victorville waiting to be cut up or sold off. They are not as it seems to be perceived, aircraft still flying the east coast.
Personally I am happy to see the back of them,although nice to fly on and a good all round machine I have never enjoyed working on them.

[Tempo]

That is correct superlame. These jets are sitting in Victorville collecting dust at the moment.

[VBPCGUY]

Would be OGA and OGC that are there at present.

[VBPCGUY]

Ahh yes forgot about OGD

[QFBUSBOY]

Am hearing that QF has bought/leased 4 dedicated B767 Freigthers from a Singaporean Company.

The aircraft are apparently being repainted in QF colours right now in China.

Truth or fiction?

[Keg]

Perhaps partial truth? AAE (part? owned by QF) are getting at least 1 767. $170K for Captains apparently. I don't know what colours they'll be in but I understand it's one of our former 767s that was sent to the desert.

[tasdevil.f27]

I heard that AAE are looking to have a 767 on the Perth/Mel run early to mid next year.

[Dangly Bits]

Didn't GOOGLE buy an ex-QF 767 a few years ago to turn into a corporate jet? Might need to google it to find out..

DB

[Wunwing]

Professor.
I am intrigued by your knowledge on this matter.

In a previous life I was tasked with looking at this matter with a legacy carrier who had a large fleet of pax aircraft.
The company in question had the same opinion as you. The Pilots union disagreed and so after a Parliamentary enquiry a few of us were tasked with investigating the economics of operating a couple of freighters on the "golden triangle" in competition to the main players but under "legacy" award.

What we found was that if it was a level playing field, ie the Oz carrier had the same traffic rights as the US carriers ( (non legacy) then the market was break even to the US carriers and we could make a profit. Effectively the route US/Oz/Asia/US was break even/ loss/Good profit. However it soon became obvious that commercial considerations had nothing to do with it but politics did and very quickly our investigation team was closed down by vested interests.

Looking at you position on a number of issues I suspect indeed you are part of those vested interests.

Wunwing

[gobbledock]

Am hearing that QF has bought/leased 4 dedicated B767 Freigthers from a Singaporean Company.
The aircraft are apparently being repainted in QF colours right now in China.
Truth or fiction?

Truth. They commence operations next year.

Professor - Legacy carriers DO make $$ from freight. AaE is 51% owned by Australia Post and 49% QF Group. The majority of Australia's domestic cargo moves via QF mainline groups during the day and via AaE at night. Qf does not lose money on domestic cargo, and Australia Post certainly doesnt lose money either with their sweet monopoly !
The Irishman has set a lot of new targets through cost reductions and you will see a few changes within th QF Group cargo operations over the next 12 months.

[blow.n.gasket]

Isn't Express Freighters Australia a wholly owned susidiary of the Qantas group?
From what I understand, EFA is fully supported by Qantas re maintenance, flight planning etc. but is a stand alone operation. Crew are recruited / trained / sim checked to QF mainline standards (evidently some are on the Q "hold file"), but are remunerated as a "green fields" operation.

Is that a fact.
EFA crew are recruited, trained and sim checked to QF mainline standards.
So a new F/O or a new Capt in EFA has exactly the same training as a Mainline pilot. What is the cost and how many sim sessions and line sectors exactly?
Should make integration of a Groupwide Opportunity seniority list easy.

However I bet you will find that there will be a difference in what training is done.

[moremj2]

Try this...

Firstly....sad to see my old bread and butter disappearing.

Secondly (from memory) the 76's were actually bought by and owned by a company called "perpetual nominees" and then (on an operational perpetual lease back deal) flown by qantas....(this info used to be on a little plaque on the inside of flight deck door....as it is a requirement to display the ultimate owner of the aircraft on the aircraft.

You may wish to begin your digging there (perpetual nominees) and see who else they have $$ invested in...the answers are out there boys and girls...

[boocs]

"There's no money in freight" said a former Ansett Chief Pilot....
b.

[Bankstown]

Qantas issued a media release about the B767F today:
About Qantas - Media Room - Media Releases

[ROH111]

Sh*t hey...

I've noticed quite a few 20T trucks driving around Sydneytown painted in Qantas Freight colours, I was wondering what was going on.

But hey, after all, there is no money is freight... is there..!

[Fris B. Fairing]

Qantas media release:

The leased B767-300F will also be the first Qantas Group aircraft to display a Qantas Freight-specific livery.

Well it does say "Cargo" but nevertheless I think today's media release reflects a loss of corporate memory.

Boeing 707-327C N7099 leased from Braniff Jan-Sep 1971.



767 not good enough to carry the roo?