Jetstar to Expand in NZ..... with longhaul
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The CP of JQ is possibly the greatest villain in all of this. He has the power to stand up and say no, this will not happen but like his previous exploits he chooses to allow his fellow pilots to fall down around him. Have some spine you weak bastard, have a look what you are doing to the profession. Even the head of the authority is asking for professional standards to be upheld, yet CPs such of yourself are allowing this disgraceful practise to continue and rip the guts out a once proud profession.
And for the rest of you that will accept this as the norm, long may you rot.
And for the rest of you that will accept this as the norm, long may you rot.
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The CP of JQ is possibly the greatest villain in all of this. He has the power to stand up and say no, this will not happen
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JQ = Jetstar (Australia) AOC
3K = Jetstar Asia AOC
I'd suggest that Australia does not have traffic rights between Singapore and NZ, so those flights would be on the AOC of the Singapore entity (3K).
What might be interesting to know, is where the A330s will be registered - VH- or 9V-.
Maybe 3K will charter the hulls for the AKL runs from JQ; otherwise could get messy with a mix of VH- and 9V- registered hulls.
3K = Jetstar Asia AOC
I'd suggest that Australia does not have traffic rights between Singapore and NZ, so those flights would be on the AOC of the Singapore entity (3K).
What might be interesting to know, is where the A330s will be registered - VH- or 9V-.
Maybe 3K will charter the hulls for the AKL runs from JQ; otherwise could get messy with a mix of VH- and 9V- registered hulls.
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And when will the JQ Singapore crew and JQ Auckland crew start operating domestically in Australia? As soon as the cadets start coming on line. Single pilot interuptions.
AIPA trying to protect Jetstar Australia pilot jobs
Jetstar's expansion irks Qantas pilots
Steve Creedy From: The Australian June 11, 2010 12:00AM
QANTAS pilots are seeking legal advice about Jetstar's move to expand long-haul flying offshore, labelling it an attempt to avoid Australia's employment laws.
Jetstar is considering using New Zealand as a base to fly to the US and Japan after yesterday unveiling Singapore as its first long-haul destination from Auckland and detailing plans to fly a Singapore-based Airbus A330 to Melbourne.
The announcements are part of the airline group's pan-Asian network strategy.
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said the addition of long-haul services in New Zealand should strengthen Jetstar's brand.
The airline will start two-class daily A330-200 services between Singapore and Melbourne from December 17 and plans to begin flying from Auckland to the Southeast Asian hub next year.
The Australian and International Pilots Association, which represents pilots in both Qantas and Jetstar, is already taking legal action about Qantas moves to take jobs offshore and has reacted angrily to the latest moves.
"Understandably, we are very concerned that Qantas, through its offshoot Jetstar, is offshoring more Australian jobs," AIPA said.
"The association . . . was not consulted about this development," AIPA acting president David Backhouse said. "It is clearly unfair that Qantas and other employers avoid Australian rates of pay and conditions of employment by setting up operations offshore to fly into Australia."
Mr Backhouse said attempts to raise the concern with the Workplace Relations Minister, Julia Gillard, had been ignored.
"Yet again we call on the federal government to ensure that big business can no longer avoid Australia's employment laws," he said "Regardless, we are monitoring this situation closely, will seek clarification from Qantas and will take appropriate action."
Steve Creedy From: The Australian June 11, 2010 12:00AM
QANTAS pilots are seeking legal advice about Jetstar's move to expand long-haul flying offshore, labelling it an attempt to avoid Australia's employment laws.
Jetstar is considering using New Zealand as a base to fly to the US and Japan after yesterday unveiling Singapore as its first long-haul destination from Auckland and detailing plans to fly a Singapore-based Airbus A330 to Melbourne.
The announcements are part of the airline group's pan-Asian network strategy.
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said the addition of long-haul services in New Zealand should strengthen Jetstar's brand.
The airline will start two-class daily A330-200 services between Singapore and Melbourne from December 17 and plans to begin flying from Auckland to the Southeast Asian hub next year.
The Australian and International Pilots Association, which represents pilots in both Qantas and Jetstar, is already taking legal action about Qantas moves to take jobs offshore and has reacted angrily to the latest moves.
"Understandably, we are very concerned that Qantas, through its offshoot Jetstar, is offshoring more Australian jobs," AIPA said.
"The association . . . was not consulted about this development," AIPA acting president David Backhouse said. "It is clearly unfair that Qantas and other employers avoid Australian rates of pay and conditions of employment by setting up operations offshore to fly into Australia."
Mr Backhouse said attempts to raise the concern with the Workplace Relations Minister, Julia Gillard, had been ignored.
"Yet again we call on the federal government to ensure that big business can no longer avoid Australia's employment laws," he said "Regardless, we are monitoring this situation closely, will seek clarification from Qantas and will take appropriate action."
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I think Taildragger is correct and different flight numbers refer to which airline owns/controls/has rights etc to the respective routes. From memory I think there may be an open skies type deal between NZ & SIN?? So 3K would have fairly easy access to that route, which SIA does twice daily already from memory? JQ getting additional rights SIN-Aus should not be hard given the vast scale that SIA currently has over QF now.
The a/c from my humble understanding will both be on JQ AOC albeit based in SIN, so tech crew will be most likely from Aus as they would need Aus ATPL (does this sound logical?). Cabin of course likely to be largely from JQ existing cabin crew base in SIN....which one would assume needs to grow?
The a/c from my humble understanding will both be on JQ AOC albeit based in SIN, so tech crew will be most likely from Aus as they would need Aus ATPL (does this sound logical?). Cabin of course likely to be largely from JQ existing cabin crew base in SIN....which one would assume needs to grow?
