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Old 15th Feb 2010, 07:08
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GA Trojan et al

The whole point is that the Qantas Group can operate a legacy carrier AND an LCC as a group cheaper than could two other entities separately. That's where it's strengths lie.

JQ actually helps support QF yields by ensuring there's a "home" within the Group for low yield traffic and second, ensures that on routes where there is only low yield traffic there's a lower cost base to ensure the Group's losses are minimized.

I am not necessarily a supporter of everything JQ and QF do and have done....and the future will be as different from today is from the past...but on this one issue, to the benefit of all QF Group employees, they have got it fairly right.
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 07:13
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ga trojan has hit the nail on the head. Has anyone ever seen a independent fully audited break down Jetstar's costs? Has anyone ever seen a Jetstar tug ever pushing back a Jetstar A330? Anyone ever seen a Jetstar A330 Flight Simulator?

I'll make it simple. Even though Jetstar rents those expensive capital items from the parent, has anyone ever seen what Jetstar pays for them compared to what anyone else pays for them?

No, and you never will. Do you know why? Because it would break forever the myth of the cost base differential between QF and J*. It would expose the lie of the constant promotion of Jetstar as the saviour of mainline.

In the real world, Jetstar would pay the same as anyone else does for fuel, maintenance, air navigation charges, aircraft leasing costs, tugs, simulators etc etc with the ONE difference being crewing costs. That is not enough to make the the mythical 30% trumpeted by QF management. That is nowhere near enough.

So can we get real about this please? Some of the Jetstar posters here are suffering from hubris. One day the lie will be exposed. What goes around comes around.
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 07:21
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Kremin.....slogans and slurs are no substance for real analysis. Qantas without Jetstar would be the airline version of the holocaust. Get over it
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 07:25
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Real analysis?? I believe that is what I was asking for.
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