CSM dobbing on Capt makes it to Newspaper
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If you have 2 small glasses (120mls) of champers, I am sure it would take you over the limit.
Assuming they have a clearance from the local authority, I do believe that CASA can check where they wish, including FRA. I don't know how true it is, but last year CASA were reported to have done some spot checks in HKG.
If you have 2 small glasses (120mls) of champers, I am sure it would take you over the limit.
Assuming they have a clearance from the local authority, I do believe that CASA can check where they wish, including FRA. I don't know how true it is, but last year CASA were reported to have done some spot checks in HKG.
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The Captain made a bad call and violated company policy. I understand he was trying to 'do the right thing' by the crew, but it was bad call nonetheless. Yes, in the olden days things were different. It is now 2010 and the policy could not be any clearer. The moral to this story is trangress that policy at your peril.
In reporting the Captain the CSM was only probably trying to cover his own A, as he no doubt feared being reported by his own team. Such is the way things have now become.
I operated on Christmas day as was more than happy to receive the extra dinner allowance in lieu of company supplied (or pilfered) alcohol.
Everyone be careful out there!
In reporting the Captain the CSM was only probably trying to cover his own A, as he no doubt feared being reported by his own team. Such is the way things have now become.
I operated on Christmas day as was more than happy to receive the extra dinner allowance in lieu of company supplied (or pilfered) alcohol.
Everyone be careful out there!
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This was a total c#&ts act by the CSM. What a ****ty thing to do. I hope his working life is made hell by the tech crews because the CSM sounds like someone who enjoys making life hell for others.
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.....'maybe the CSM had just been through the 4 week "re-programming" course -mandatory for those "poor performing" aka -" anti kpi group" On Board Managers.
Word is on Day #1- at least 3 of the group downgraded and one CSM went on indefinite stress leave. This was post the Tarantulas' opening slide show.
Agree, the G.O.D's are well and truly over. Sure- it was common practice in the late 80's/early 90's .....BUT this new REICH has decreed it VERBOTEN !
Already the Clown who perpetrated this dastardly act is known.
Me thinks he may be getting quite a few early wake up calls upline ( not via the phone
)
Word is on Day #1- at least 3 of the group downgraded and one CSM went on indefinite stress leave. This was post the Tarantulas' opening slide show.
Agree, the G.O.D's are well and truly over. Sure- it was common practice in the late 80's/early 90's .....BUT this new REICH has decreed it VERBOTEN !
Already the Clown who perpetrated this dastardly act is known.
Me thinks he may be getting quite a few early wake up calls upline ( not via the phone
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Company Policy ??
Since when does something being company policy make it right?
So called company policy is littered with stupidity introduced by fools to bring employees to heel.
All part of the fear and intimidation protocol.
Once that front door closes common sense begins to prevail unless you happen to have a CSM like this one.
He will most likely get a promotion.
The old motto--"what happens up the track stays up the track"
So called company policy is littered with stupidity introduced by fools to bring employees to heel.
All part of the fear and intimidation protocol.
Once that front door closes common sense begins to prevail unless you happen to have a CSM like this one.
He will most likely get a promotion.
The old motto--"what happens up the track stays up the track"
Nunc est bibendum
Me thinks he may be getting quite a few early wake up calls upline ( not via the phone )
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Agreed.
This guy only needs to put one foot(operational,company policy) wrong and he is toast.
Although he might require a 300 Euro breakfast next time he is in FRA.
He eats room service Brecky at 0330 apparently
This guy only needs to put one foot(operational,company policy) wrong and he is toast.
Although he might require a 300 Euro breakfast next time he is in FRA.
He eats room service Brecky at 0330 apparently
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The Captain made a bad call
In this job it's very easy to spot people who cannot think outside the square.
Meanwhile,I don't think getting an internal room number at 3am wrong a form of harassment.It's a simple mistake that anyone can make.
A cold shower is needed
Everyone should take a Bex and have a good lay down but before doing so, they should read and reflect on the positions of Oh Spare Me (post #22) and mustafagander (post #32).
Clearly, the Captained contravened Company policy. Equally,the CSM hardly covered himself in glory by doing what he did. IF the Captain wanted to brighten up the day for "his" crew, why didn't he shout a round of drinks at dinner-time. He was, after all, paid a double allowance for dinner on Christmas Day.
Whether you agree or disagree with the Company policy is irrelevant: you have to comply with it. Rules are rules. If every Captain and Manager 'shouted' drinks at Company expense over the Chritsmas period, the bill would be enormous. Get real people but for God's sake, don't harrass the CSM - he's just not worth the hassle.
Clearly, the Captained contravened Company policy. Equally,the CSM hardly covered himself in glory by doing what he did. IF the Captain wanted to brighten up the day for "his" crew, why didn't he shout a round of drinks at dinner-time. He was, after all, paid a double allowance for dinner on Christmas Day.
Whether you agree or disagree with the Company policy is irrelevant: you have to comply with it. Rules are rules. If every Captain and Manager 'shouted' drinks at Company expense over the Chritsmas period, the bill would be enormous. Get real people but for God's sake, don't harrass the CSM - he's just not worth the hassle.
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....' OH alright then Ken.
After all it is Australia Day tomorrow.
So in the interest of: aussie fairness, aussie mateship, true blue-ism , she'll be right mate and fair enough cobber.
-Lets give the CSM an Aussie Pardon. Strewth-everyone makes a mistake now and again.
Happy Australia Day
After all it is Australia Day tomorrow.
So in the interest of: aussie fairness, aussie mateship, true blue-ism , she'll be right mate and fair enough cobber.
-Lets give the CSM an Aussie Pardon. Strewth-everyone makes a mistake now and again.
Happy Australia Day
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If every Captain and Manager 'shouted' drinks at Company expense over the Chritsmas period, the bill would be enormous.
Hardly much of a cost at all compared to say ..fuel...or Geoffs wage....or the company cocktail parties for the 'others'.
For what its worth, I know many people in vastly smaller companies who get given the company credit card and are allowed to buy their teams every now and again, drinks, decent meals etc no questions asked.
Get real guys.
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Guys, while we don't know all the facts of the situation, the CSM perhaps wasn't wrong in what [they] did. If you all start going down the road of bullying and harassing someone that spoke out when a policy was broken, where does that leave us? It leads us to a workplace where people will start to overlook things for fear of being treated unfairly and being looked down upon by others and that simply is a good place to be. That environment kind of reminds me of school...
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For me, the disconcerting part is that the "manager" thought the best way to handle the situation was to not say anything, and then report it to management.
If what the Captain suggested was against the policy and the CSM didn't like it, they should have actually managed the situation and discussed it with the Captain, rather than the "direct to management" approach. It is sad that the so-called leader in the cabin thinks that the only option is via the management, rather than solving the problem at the time.
I agree with the previous sentiments that nothing should be done to harass the crewmember concerned. I'm sure other cabin crew will be very quick to report any SOP deviation from the person concerned.
If what the Captain suggested was against the policy and the CSM didn't like it, they should have actually managed the situation and discussed it with the Captain, rather than the "direct to management" approach. It is sad that the so-called leader in the cabin thinks that the only option is via the management, rather than solving the problem at the time.
I agree with the previous sentiments that nothing should be done to harass the crewmember concerned. I'm sure other cabin crew will be very quick to report any SOP deviation from the person concerned.
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Opened bottles of wine , champagne had to be discarded down the drain as per company/customs requirements before crew disembarkation at terminal arrival stations in my previous life. What on earth is wrong with saving some for the crew after shut down arrival/duties have been completed.
And to call the CSM unaustralian? I think what he did is a very Australian trait.
And to call the CSM unaustralian? I think what he did is a very Australian trait.
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‘Wouldn't happen with qcca crew. They actually try and get along with techies.’
Ahh typical comment from old Funbags. Poor fellow, you must have really had a number done on you. Rofl!!
Ahh typical comment from old Funbags. Poor fellow, you must have really had a number done on you. Rofl!!