Somthing Air NZ will like ...... Rob Fyfe take a bow
,,Choice Bro!
Just point out the factual errors chaps...
You say "ANZ is a tax payer owned and subsidized basket case."
Show me the evidence that it is subsidised and show me the evidence it is a basket case. There are no subsidies. As for being a basket case very few airlines have come through the GFC as well as Air NZ did.
You say "He is so nice, oh he respects us! Easy when you have Treasury paying the bills".
Show me where treasury is paying the bills. Air NZ actually pays a dividend to the taxpayer.
Sensitive about your tax payer funded icon huh?
Dash-Q
Yep, picked up on your sarcasm, it was a good line to use so I did.
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AirNZ and Qantas, for some stupid reason, have always been regarded as "too big to fail". But they're not. All they do is move people and freight from point A to point B. There are plenty of others who can do that.
Let's apply some good old-fashioned 1970s socialist regulation: NZ becomes a state, just like Tassy; Qantas absorbs AirNZ, and changes its name to Air Australia.
Let's apply some good old-fashioned 1970s socialist regulation: NZ becomes a state, just like Tassy; Qantas absorbs AirNZ, and changes its name to Air Australia.
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Come on guys, go easy on MT. He is probably still a little upset after his dad lost his job at Ansett as a flight engineer on the 767 and the family had to sell his pony.
I dont really know how much stock the industry really puts into this ATW award. However it is obvious that share price performance is'nt one of the criteria. However you have to give ANZ some credit for winning this award against some of these huge oufits with deep pockets. ANZ has used its domestic monopoly to fund market leading innovations to its international product allowing them to go out and lose $1mill a week.........oh, wait, what?
But they have the largest black commercial aircraft in the world (care factor: zero)
As for the bailout, from memory most of the bailout package was in the form of gaurantees, not in actual cash. So in reality the NZ tax payer picked up a 50% share in a company for bugger all cash upfront. (now all they need is for the share price to improve)
Fyfe is like any CEO, his success is largely down to the staff on the coal face. What he has done right is created a culture that allows staff to beleive they are all a critical part of the airline by sending them on touchy, feely courses like "realise your potential" (Thats 2 days of my life im never getting back)
Im a bit indifferent to Rob but he has kept 11,000 people employed through a pretty tough period which is better than alot have managed. got to give credit where credit is due I guess.
I dont really know how much stock the industry really puts into this ATW award. However it is obvious that share price performance is'nt one of the criteria. However you have to give ANZ some credit for winning this award against some of these huge oufits with deep pockets. ANZ has used its domestic monopoly to fund market leading innovations to its international product allowing them to go out and lose $1mill a week.........oh, wait, what?
But they have the largest black commercial aircraft in the world (care factor: zero)
As for the bailout, from memory most of the bailout package was in the form of gaurantees, not in actual cash. So in reality the NZ tax payer picked up a 50% share in a company for bugger all cash upfront. (now all they need is for the share price to improve)
Fyfe is like any CEO, his success is largely down to the staff on the coal face. What he has done right is created a culture that allows staff to beleive they are all a critical part of the airline by sending them on touchy, feely courses like "realise your potential" (Thats 2 days of my life im never getting back)
Im a bit indifferent to Rob but he has kept 11,000 people employed through a pretty tough period which is better than alot have managed. got to give credit where credit is due I guess.
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You may have missed the difference between management and leadership: lots of CEOs can do management (learnable), fewer can do leadership (mixture of learnable and inherent); few can do both. I saw Fyfe's leadership when he was in charge of the maintenance flight of No 75 Sqn (RNZAF) and have seen his management where he is now. Both situations have evidenced (I hate to type this) an "engaged" workforce.
You may have missed the difference between management and leadership: lots of CEOs can do management (learnable), fewer can do leadership (mixture of learnable and inherent); few can do both. I saw Fyfe's leadership when he was in charge of the maintenance flight of No 75 Sqn (RNZAF) and have seen his management where he is now. Both situations have evidenced (I hate to type this) an "engaged" workforce.
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ANZ, happy vibes for something important
Fyfe is like any CEO, his success is largely down to the staff on the coal face.
Fyfe is doing something right, ANZ has a good vibe, good on him..
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I have several friends in Air NZ and they all speak highly of him. They're not just indeifferent like in most companies, they like him and they like Air NZ. They feel like they are a part of something. I personally feel like he is over the top but I have to admit his style appears to work. He has created a certain 'unity' within Air NZ.
He definately displays 'leadership' as opposed to the 'management' shown in most CEO roles now days.
He definately displays 'leadership' as opposed to the 'management' shown in most CEO roles now days.
Yes Cribble - and there are others ex RNZAF who will tell you about the bloke who never used to drink with the rest of the boys.
About how he was a flash git then, and still is now.
Leader - my arse.
Customer service - tick.
Marketing - tick.
But current share-price?
Current return on investment? (yes - the tired old dividends to the Govt story is always trotted out).
Economic multiplier of $800 million invested somewhere else in the NZ economy as opposed to Air NZ? - Oh, sorry, tourism is NZ's biggest industry - of course. Despite the fact most international visitors go there once in a lifetime.
What was the promise - one new route a year?
China - no brainer, Vancouver - hardly qualifies as a new route - been done before.
And ah - network profitability by route????!!!
Look deeper than the surface - please.
About how he was a flash git then, and still is now.
Leader - my arse.
Customer service - tick.
Marketing - tick.
But current share-price?
Current return on investment? (yes - the tired old dividends to the Govt story is always trotted out).
Economic multiplier of $800 million invested somewhere else in the NZ economy as opposed to Air NZ? - Oh, sorry, tourism is NZ's biggest industry - of course. Despite the fact most international visitors go there once in a lifetime.
What was the promise - one new route a year?
China - no brainer, Vancouver - hardly qualifies as a new route - been done before.
And ah - network profitability by route????!!!
Look deeper than the surface - please.
