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QF Incident in Hong Kong

Old 17th Nov 2009, 10:05
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QF Incident in Hong Kong

So what happened to the QF aircraft that was escorted by fire trucks in Hong Kong today? Aborted T/O? engine fire?

Where's the rumours?

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Old 17th Nov 2009, 10:37
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Well I believe it was QF30 in the wars again. (coincidentally on the day that the intermediate investigation report into the cylinder rupture was released).
Rejected T/O from fairly high speed apparently and small brake fire ensued.
Aircraft sitting on the stand-off on the western apron. Flight cancelled.
Dunno the reason for the RTO.
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Ive heard through the traps that it need an engine change..... not sure what let go though..

HAECO should have a "pool spare" donk strapped on in no time
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 05:05
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Absolute rubbish journalism

Engine bang halts Qantas take-off
By David Southwellnews.com.auNovember 18, 2009 04:11pm+-PrintEmailShare
A QANTAS passenger plane taking off from Hong Kong was brought to a screeching halt after a pilot heard "a loud bang" from the engine.
QF30, a 747 Jumbo with 313 passengers onboard, was heading to Melbourne from Hong Kong International Airport at 9.55am local time yesterday (1:55pm AEDT yesterday) when it came to an abrupt halt.

Clasina Cue, a Melbourne grandmother and former airport worker, was aboard along with her friend, Lisa Taliana, also from Melbourne with both returning from a Hong Kong holiday.

Both say the plane was nearing taking off speed.

“The plane's nose was a bit up in the air,” Ms Cue said.

Ms Taliana was not sure on that point.

“There was a big bang and a shudder. The pilot slammed the brakes and stopped the plane. It had been close to the point of no return.”

A Qantas spokesperson confirms it was a "high-speed rejected take-off" but denies the nose was off the ground.

Both Ms Cue and Ms Taliana said they could smell smoke in the cabin, Ms Cue believed it was from the “screeching” tyres.

Ms Cue and Ms Taliana both praised the pilot.

“It was the pilot’s quick thinking. We could have gone up in the air. It could have been a lot worse,” said Ms Cue.

“I’m just thankful we’re not dead,” said Ms Taliana.

“The pilot did an awesome job. Not taking off was the best thing he could have possibly done.”

Both said all the passengers aboard an apparently fully-laden plane were very calm, there were no screams.

“It just happened so quickly,” Ms Cue said.

“There was a baby crying but no one appeared to be hurt.”

The passengers were told to stay in their seats and then the pilot’s voice came over the speakers.

“He said we weren’t in any danger but it seemed one of the engines had blown,” Ms Taliana said.

The airport’s fire brigade were on hand and engineers jumped into the engine that showed no sign of damage.

The plane sat on the runway until the tyres cooled and then it was towed to an area safe for the passengers to disembark.

The Qantas spokesperson said there had been no cockpit indications of engine failure but it was later found that the engine needed new compressor blades.

The spokesperson could not say why there was no cockpit indicator of a problem before the bang alerted the pilot.

The passengers went back through Hong Kong Customs and were put up in an airport hotel.

Ms Cue and Ms Taliana were expecting to fly out of Hong Kong today but were told they could get on a Cathay Pacific flight that left Hong Kong yesterday.

Neither were impressed that they weren’t told it was a indirect flight, meaning a stopover in Adelaide.

Both are back in Melbourne.

Ms Cue says she finds the whole thing “quite funny in the end” and “just one of those things.”

As a former airport worker she says there are lots of similar incidents from many airlines that never get reported.

Qantas planes have been bedevilled with numerous incidents over the past couple of years.

There have been union claims that safety is being compromised with maintenance work being outsourced to overseas terminals.

The Qantas spokesperson however said the plane in question had been maintained in Sydney.
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 08:53
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Imagine if we flew, like these reporters wrote their articles. We would all be driving garbage trucks. Carrying the garbage these jokers waste good ink printing.

Note to self; Only read quality publications
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 09:37
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Ms Cue and Ms Taliana were expecting to fly out of Hong Kong today but were told they could get on a Cathay Pacific flight that left Hong Kong yesterday.

Neither were impressed that they weren’t told it was a indirect flight, meaning a stopover in Adelaide.
So.... They got home on the same day, on a different airline that QF didn't have to provide to them...and they still find something to complain about!?
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 09:49
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Rumour is the mod is a QF FO
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 09:51
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Imagine the indignation if they had been sent home with the other Qantas Group airline???
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 19:57
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apparently Qantas problems are caused by "Cosmic Rays"

'Cosmic rays' may have caused Qantas jet's plunge
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 20:59
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I'm still wondering what this "point of no return" Mrs Taliana was talking about. No doubt she is an expert on things aviation so the reporter would be eating it up. Hey, throw the dog a bone.

Are there any journos in the country who have actually got a private pilots licence, and have a basic knowledge of what's going on out there.
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 22:15
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Must be good, these QF aircraft. Oh to have a V1 after VR in all modern jetliners!
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 01:35
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if they had a Profesional Reporters Rumour network, it would be empty!!! Or the 1 who is, would have to have discussions with himself/herself!!!
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 01:48
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Clasina Cue, a Melbourne grandmother and former airport worker
I didn't realise that serving coffee at the domestic airport cafe makes you an expert on aviation
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 06:43
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“It was the pilot’s quick thinking. We could have gone up in the air. It could have been a lot worse,” said Ms Cue.
She obviously understands that it could have been much worse if the a/c was beyond V1 and conducted the RTO!

“The pilot did an awesome job. Not taking off was the best thing he could have possibly done.”
Excellent to see that she identified the aircraft as not having yet reached V1 and commending the pilot for implementing the correct procedure!

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Old 19th Nov 2009, 08:13
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Sound like it was past V1 afterall!


“The plane's nose was a bit up in the air,” Ms Cue said.
Sh!t
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 13:47
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That sounds like a great excuse for my next line check, 'honest it wasn't me, it was the cosmic rays!"
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 20:23
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The Media & Witness reports

Aviation is not singled out for bad reporting - it's not unique. If you are ever involved in ANYTHING that subsequently is reported in the media, you will see that the facts will be wrong and witness reports will be way off the mark.

Unfortunately this is the way of the media.

And to pay out on witnesses describing what they saw and felt in the back of the plane is a bit condescending. Why waste good electrons about complaining about it?
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 20:45
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Yes. I too have never really understood the patronising attitude displayed by pilots to industry outsiders in describing their experiences of aviation matters.

Strikes me as a self congratulatory manifestation of the "sky god" syndrome.
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 21:50
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ditch,

Unlike LHCC and their patronising attitude towards their own! Slagging off the LHR base, QCCA and anybody who isn't part of the Sydney scene. It seems like the pot calling the kettle black!

LHCC are the biggest backstabbers known to man!
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Old 20th Nov 2009, 01:37
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I would have thought taking it flying would have been safer/more expedient than a high speed RTO.

But then again, I wasn't there!

Cheers...FD...
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