A380 problems
Sounds like a problem brewing to me.
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May be AF's first but it is the 20th A380 delivery.
QF just got their 5th (22nd delivery) and #6 is only 10 days away
A380 production list - Planes
QF just got their 5th (22nd delivery) and #6 is only 10 days away
A380 production list - Planes
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I have only flown on the QF Dugong and from a pax perspective in J Class upstairs I was not particulary impressed....its a very open "barn" up there whereas the old 744 has smaller sections which make it more pleasant (personal opinion).How many J Class seats upstairs...72?
The double decker unloading system makes it a sh.t fight to get to immigration if you are in a hurry as all the Y pax disembark at the same time. Its no fun waiting 2 hours in line at LAX if you have a connection to catch.
Personally, I can't inderstand the Dugong's popularity with pax but maybe EK and SQ's are better configured.
Luckily my next US trip is scheduled (deliberately) on a day when "old faithful" will be doing the service.
The double decker unloading system makes it a sh.t fight to get to immigration if you are in a hurry as all the Y pax disembark at the same time. Its no fun waiting 2 hours in line at LAX if you have a connection to catch.
Personally, I can't inderstand the Dugong's popularity with pax but maybe EK and SQ's are better configured.
Luckily my next US trip is scheduled (deliberately) on a day when "old faithful" will be doing the service.
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ifsknt your previous post is incorrect on a number of counts.
Primarily the point that the economy passengers disembark at the same time as the business class passengers.
With a three door operation, the first door open is M1L and the first class passengers disembark. the second door opened is the U1L where the JC pax and the WC pax disembark. Then after the upper deck is cleared and the vesibule cleared the M2L is opened and the YC pax disembark.
the line in LAX has nothing to do with the disembarkation process, its about the **** fight that is known as Tom Bradley terminal and the incompetent US immigration process.
The JC pax are more likely caught behind a dozen other airlines that arrive at the same time.
And the fact that you dont like the configuration is not inconsistent with some pax comments, however 95% plus like the spacious feel and the lie flat beds that they are completely in control of, unlike the SQ ones that have to be put into a bed position and returned upright by a crew member
Primarily the point that the economy passengers disembark at the same time as the business class passengers.
With a three door operation, the first door open is M1L and the first class passengers disembark. the second door opened is the U1L where the JC pax and the WC pax disembark. Then after the upper deck is cleared and the vesibule cleared the M2L is opened and the YC pax disembark.
the line in LAX has nothing to do with the disembarkation process, its about the **** fight that is known as Tom Bradley terminal and the incompetent US immigration process.
The JC pax are more likely caught behind a dozen other airlines that arrive at the same time.
And the fact that you dont like the configuration is not inconsistent with some pax comments, however 95% plus like the spacious feel and the lie flat beds that they are completely in control of, unlike the SQ ones that have to be put into a bed position and returned upright by a crew member
As many engineers will and do tell - the 744 in it's first years of Qantas service encountered a heap more of issues than the 380 has. New aircraft, new issues - big deal - look how successful the 744 has been and yet not issue free early on...what aircraft is?
A380 average is 96-97% fleet wide and SQ has achieved an average of 98.1%
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Really, what was that air turnback recently, wasn't a cooked Fuel Data card and an inability to dump fuel because no bloody fuel pumps were running was it?
Then I'm led to believe there was the cooked power distribution card ? Fiji was it?
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None that I am aware of. Not much of a problem
None that I am aware of. Not much of a problem
Then I'm led to believe there was the cooked power distribution card ? Fiji was it?
Thought Fiji was a medical emergency followed by flap warning indicator problem on restart. Crew subsequently ran out of duty hours after waiting for an a330 engineer to check it out, that is a non scheduled port with predominantly boeing support.
When QF get dugong #10 they will send the 744s one for one to the desert. But when they have all 20 who knows how long the 744s will remain. Personally I am happy to see the back of the ugly sisters they were such a pain in the butt from the day they arrived, but I think OJH should stay. Even after its little sojourn off the runway in BKK is has proven to be a reliable and solid aircraft. It says something about Boeings in general and the quality of a Boeing repair.
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I happily stand corrected on the disembarkation. Must have been one of those Tom Bradley days. I can now remove that "dislike" from my list, thank you.
Regarding the configuration, I have not had to have the SQ bed returned to upright by crew...I have always managed to do it myself. Its also full length and wide and, very comfortable especially on the SIN-EWR leg (A340 but same bed)
I still like old faithful though!
I happily stand corrected on the disembarkation. Must have been one of those Tom Bradley days. I can now remove that "dislike" from my list, thank you.
Regarding the configuration, I have not had to have the SQ bed returned to upright by crew...I have always managed to do it myself. Its also full length and wide and, very comfortable especially on the SIN-EWR leg (A340 but same bed)
I still like old faithful though!
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I also much prefer the 744 in J class to the 380. It's not just the barn-like sensation of the cabin but the amount of time it takes for service towards the back (90 mins for a drink in 24K) - and also, especially, the impossible configuration of the toilets and galleys. I am sure there is an algorithm to calculate the difference in availability but just a glance will show that lines for the toilets are much longer than in the 744 even if the basic ratio is similar. SQ's arrangement is better and the aisle access for every seat makes a big difference.
Had to fly economy, the seating is larger and more comfortable than my recolelction of the 747 and other long haul aircraft. Suggest sitting upstairs on the outer isles where there are two seats only, not three, and due to curvature of the fuselage, there is a bin (and more space) under the window, same as upstairs on a 747.
Very pleasant upstairs in QF on the A380.
Michael
