Jetstar Australia time in the sun expires
Kremin,
No one, for a minute believes that JQ will disappear. For the good of the group, it has to exist domestically! Internationally however, the case still needs to be proven.
The irony of this whole situation does not lie in the existence of JQ, but the situation that developed when JQ drivers undercut the industry, and now those very JQ drivers will be undercut themselves.
A shame for anyone involved in this once fine industry...
No one, for a minute believes that JQ will disappear. For the good of the group, it has to exist domestically! Internationally however, the case still needs to be proven.
The irony of this whole situation does not lie in the existence of JQ, but the situation that developed when JQ drivers undercut the industry, and now those very JQ drivers will be undercut themselves.
A shame for anyone involved in this once fine industry...
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When are people going to realise we're on the same side.
It’s time to ‘bloke up’ and act like the professionals we often claim to be. It’s no use stroking on about who did what to whom. We need to look forward rather than dwelling on a past that is now effectively irrelevant if we want to maintain decent, long term conditions for any of us here at home. You don’t have to particularly like the Captain/FO you’re flying with to get the job done properly. Treat this the same if you need to. GET OVER IT!
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Hmmmm, maybe its not going to be as easy as J* think!
From Crikey:
From Crikey:
by Ben Sandilands
Jetstar’s ambitions to fly wide-bodied Airbus A332s twice daily between Singapore and Tokyo’s Haneda airport were shafted this morning by the sudden granting of the requested capacity to Singapore Airlines.
The battle of the low-cost trans-border franchises of Singapore Airlines-controlled Tiger and Qantas-directed Jetstar Asia based in Singapore is definitely turning nasty.
Until this morning Jetstar Asia seemed optimistic that Singapore’s Air Traffic Rights Commission would grant it twice daily flights on the route with new jets Qantas will take delivery of next October.
It was to have been a strong move by Jetstar to expand its Changi operations through Jetstar Asia into destinations such as Tokyo, which are too far from Singapore to be served by single aisle A320s.
However, Singapore Airlines, which controls Tiger Airways and that is under severe pressure from Jetstar Asia, will fly the route twice daily from next October instead.
The Tokyo-Haneda route was to have been the first material development in the Qantas strategy of creating a large offshore base for Jetstar’s long-haul international services.
Qantas is serious about shifting some of its planned expansion of low-fare, long-haul flights by the Jetstar brand on the kangaroo routes to Europe to lower cost centres.
Jetstar Asia in Singapore is the front runner for this, especially given the ideological challenges to the continued operation of its Hanoi-based Jetstar Pacific franchise.
However, the Jetstar plan clearly threatened the interests of Singapore Airlines and its insistence until now that Tiger would confine itself to single aisle, shorter range A320s.
The problem is that A320s are useless for low-cost flights as far from Singapore as Seoul or Shanghai or Dubai or Abu Dhabi, all cities with untapped potential for a low-cost Singapore-flagged carrier such as J
Jetstar Asia, which is 51% locally owned by Westbrook Investments.
By showing its hand on its wide-body ambitions Jetstar Asia also follows the other Tiger rival, Air Asia, in moving to a two-type fleet allowing it to operate long-haul routes as well as shorter regional Asian routes.
Jetstar’s ambitions to fly wide-bodied Airbus A332s twice daily between Singapore and Tokyo’s Haneda airport were shafted this morning by the sudden granting of the requested capacity to Singapore Airlines.
The battle of the low-cost trans-border franchises of Singapore Airlines-controlled Tiger and Qantas-directed Jetstar Asia based in Singapore is definitely turning nasty.
Until this morning Jetstar Asia seemed optimistic that Singapore’s Air Traffic Rights Commission would grant it twice daily flights on the route with new jets Qantas will take delivery of next October.
It was to have been a strong move by Jetstar to expand its Changi operations through Jetstar Asia into destinations such as Tokyo, which are too far from Singapore to be served by single aisle A320s.
However, Singapore Airlines, which controls Tiger Airways and that is under severe pressure from Jetstar Asia, will fly the route twice daily from next October instead.
The Tokyo-Haneda route was to have been the first material development in the Qantas strategy of creating a large offshore base for Jetstar’s long-haul international services.
Qantas is serious about shifting some of its planned expansion of low-fare, long-haul flights by the Jetstar brand on the kangaroo routes to Europe to lower cost centres.
Jetstar Asia in Singapore is the front runner for this, especially given the ideological challenges to the continued operation of its Hanoi-based Jetstar Pacific franchise.
However, the Jetstar plan clearly threatened the interests of Singapore Airlines and its insistence until now that Tiger would confine itself to single aisle, shorter range A320s.
The problem is that A320s are useless for low-cost flights as far from Singapore as Seoul or Shanghai or Dubai or Abu Dhabi, all cities with untapped potential for a low-cost Singapore-flagged carrier such as J
Jetstar Asia, which is 51% locally owned by Westbrook Investments.
By showing its hand on its wide-body ambitions Jetstar Asia also follows the other Tiger rival, Air Asia, in moving to a two-type fleet allowing it to operate long-haul routes as well as shorter regional Asian routes.
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Thats awesome news - good to see that another opportunity for Australian pilots to undercut each other in a 'heroic' fashion has been body slammed by Singapore Inc.
The QF board wont call Buchannan to account though. It is a pillar of QF group corporate culture that when something goes right it is because of the execs, but when something goes wrong its not their fault and they are never held accountable or to blame.
The QF board wont call Buchannan to account though. It is a pillar of QF group corporate culture that when something goes right it is because of the execs, but when something goes wrong its not their fault and they are never held accountable or to blame.
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There were a number of airlines applying for these slots, not just JQ and SQ.
Am I reading this correctly - some QF group pilots would rather see SQ gain capacity than JQ?
Am I reading this correctly - some QF group pilots would rather see SQ gain capacity than JQ?
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long john,
i think the point is here that we all would like to see the flying given to aus based pilots, rather than further lowering our t&c's with cheap overseas labour buy your mates in HQ!
jq/qf management are determined to drive our profession into the ground, so when they are prevented from doing this i think we all enjoy it...
i think the point is here that we all would like to see the flying given to aus based pilots, rather than further lowering our t&c's with cheap overseas labour buy your mates in HQ!
jq/qf management are determined to drive our profession into the ground, so when they are prevented from doing this i think we all enjoy it...
