Jetstar Australia time in the sun expires
 

Anyone doubting where Boston Consulting Group (little broocey) and Oldmeadow will take J* is becoming clearer by the day.Was always part of the grand strategy and Joyce will stay on message as long as Leigh lets him..

Looks like "opportunities" are becoming scarcer downunder...Wonder where all those aircraft will be based? Singapore? Turkmenistan?

Jetstar Mulls Southeast Asia Base for Europe Flights (Update2) - Bloomberg.com

Good luck getting tech crew to operate them out of those places. Cabin Crew shouldn't be a problem, but are Jetstar planning on using expats or do they think there will be thousands of local pilots queuing up to join them just like Australia?

This is indeed worrying news Insider.

Have read elsewhere on Pprune that:

Quote:

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Qantas can't, but Jetstar can join with Ryan Air, hire pilots/cabin crew offshore and get its maintenance done in Asia.

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Very unaustralian and should not be allowed. The travelling public and the workforce deserve better.

Australia isn't Hong Kong but business downunder is increasingly behaving like it is.

More to the point GM, what Qantas is doing with Jetstar breaches its obligations under the Qantas Sale Act, a public law of the Commonwealth of Australia?

Shame on AIPA for pulling the rug from under the feet of its past president. The following quote from another union official sums it up nicely.

· ‘Offshoring we fight our way, the pilots only hope was via that case.’

Sorry to say, but the games over guys.

Doesn't Jetstar have 2 more 330s due in the coming months? Wonder which base they will end up in....

HI everyone, the word up here is the base is to be in Ho chi Min using expats and locals, crewed by Pacific Jet*, some feelers are out in the water as we speak regarding conditions and perks.
Also just saw Jet* has applied for unlimited seats into Vietnam .

Cant see the problem with this solution myself , but I am sure some A330 Australian Jet* guys might.

Game over - nonsense.

Too many planes being built and nowhere near enough pilots to fly them. Little economic upset seems to be receding already and very soon we will be back to the desperate situation airlines were in 2 years ago. Simply not enough qualified and experienced aircrew.

There will always be good and bad airlines from an employees perspective but if anybody tries to force pilots offshore their airline will experience immediate difficulties. Jetstar might need to think about that next time they try another Darwin act. Once the industry fully turns, watch pilots bail from there faster than you could imagine.

This would be my bet.
2x A332 bassed in AKL
Overnight they would run AKL-LAX & LAX-AKL
Durring the day one A331 would do a AKL-SYD-AKL run which would replace one of the last remaining QF 763 on the SYD-AKL-SYD route. And AKL-SYD return would say only take 7h30m block time up.

Never flown an A332 and cant be assed doing the maths so can someone in the know tell us if it will do AKL-LAX and vv with a decent load?

QF used the A332 on AKL-LAX last year during the Winter.

With JQ's new A332 being HGW it should help on this route

Alan Joyce has stated that the U.S. is not the right market for Jetstar and they won't be operating there.

Just like they will never operate business cityflyer routes. I HATE to say it but give it time and they will find a way to infiltrate other high yield business destinations. :mad:

If that quote from Joyce is accurate then its a lay down mazare that AKL-LAX-AKL will be flown by JQI as soon as is humanly possible.

Perhaps that route can be 'enhanced' like the Japanese market has been...............

Oh yeah, Japan is enhanced...

Wasn't Westaway claiming swine flu? 44% down is a lot of swine flu. Passengers go out of their way to avoid flying J* out of Japan......
Mini me is a little more eloquent than his angry little predecessor, but his script is identical.

Of course customers prefer J*. It's all about 'experience' and most cutomers agree. "Never again"

The so called Low cost model does nothing except bleed yield. Dixon succeeded at something, convincing many they don't need to pay enough for an airfare to return cost of capital. Not sure the p$*@k was worth $11million for that sort of legacy.

The Last Decent CEO
 

Menadue was the last decent CEO Qantas had.The man had integrity credibility and intelligence.His remuneration was $200K.
With Dixon he was paid more and contributed less.
Gotta love the free market.
Jet Star will be known as the subsidiary that ate the parent.
Any decent Ad Exec will tell you that trashing the QF brand is about the most imbecilic act in recent aviation(if not corporate) history.
All for what ?
Lower costs and break the employee culture that made Qantas what it once was.
Qantas is now a second tier carrier.Something that is recognized by everyone except Qantas Management.
They simply dont spend enough on the product.
Costs over safety and service.The Qantas mantra since privatization.
The JetStar parasite will eventually kill Qantas.
Start buying Qantas memorabilia now

I must be some sort of dinosaur. I agree with everything Packrat just said!

Even more of a worry is the following quote by an ex QF Exec..

''Qantas is destroying its brand name,'' a former Qantas executive says. ''They are cross-subsidising Jetstar like you won't believe.''The former executive argues that low-cost airlines are not feasible on routes of more than five hours because international travellers prefer full-service airlines for the long haul. He is also critical of such strategies as replacing Qantas flights with Jetstar on most flights between Australia and Japan.

''The low-fare market is the blue-singlet boys - the fellas going up [to Asia] for the buck's party and the silver hairs. It's the newly-weds and the nearly-deads,'' the former executive says. ''It's just a flying bus service, making its money from ancillary services.''..............

The loss of market share on international routes means that Qantas must allocate its fixed costs over less flying, which forces up unit costs.

''It's making Qantas dearer and dearer relative to their competition,'' the former executive says.

''They are effectively saying to the unions, 'If you guys don't come up with a radical plan to lower unit costs, we will just melt Qantas on the vine and do it all on Jetstar'.

Full article available at Joyce ready for great leap at Qantas

Joyce is destroying Qantas, he has given away all the corporate market in NZ to Air Nz. People get sick of LCC.

Sounds like another inept quote from some goon CEO many years ago that stated - "I personally don't know where FedEx and UPS are going with this. There's no money in freight". :ugh::ugh:

I find it hard to argue with packrat's post #15........... so I won't. Everything that packrat has written is true & correct. Sadly I envisage the day when a book will be released titled 'The Destruction of Qantas ---- and the people who caused it' ........ with Darth's face prominently on the cover. :(