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Old 27th Sep 2009, 22:48
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Skywest sets sights on push into Asia

From: Skywest sets sights on push into Asia - The West Australian


Managing director Hugh Davin said yesterday the airline had dusted off plans to order up to four 180-seat Airbus A320s. It is expected the A320s will be used for mining charters on peak midweek days and for international services on weekends, Fridays and Mondays.

Last month, Skywest - one of WA's biggest intrastate airlines - ordered its ninth Fokker 100 for delivery in November to meet increased demand.

The airline, which is the biggest operator of fly-in, fly out charters for the resources industry, put on hold its announced plans to add four A320s when the economic downturn hit last year.
In the past three years, the airline has trebled its fleet of Fokker 100s and increased its fleet of smaller 46-seat Fokker 50s from five to seven.

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Another bl00dy F50???? Argh! Surely there's a few spare Bras's somewhere.... Please, anyone....
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I think you mean another F100, no more F50's?
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Which desert did they order it from
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More than likey the FK100 [people please read] will be coming from EU.

BTW - I didnt think the A320 can get into LCY? GT mentions that in his article, perhaps he means the A318?
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Oops! Sorry... This is what happens when us controllers have a day off - minds turn to mush... Don't let Greg know though or we will have to work everyday, for our own benefit of course!

Either way, it's Argh! F100s are just as bad. Get caught too easily by real jets and too quick for B146s... Pains in the backside! Surely there's a factory in Brazil they can source the jets from instead?
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Why?

They already have a Fleet of FK100's, aircraft are fairly cheap and all ready have the expertise from the type [and keeping a fllet common]

Why? Would you want to go for a grab bag of expensive EMB type aircraft that have DOC's high up close to the B737-700's
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The article is about XR getting A320's not F50 or F100's. You are still asleep westausatc! Do A320's make you happy?
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Actually if you read the whole report it says that Skywest are taking onboard another FK100 in November
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Checkerboard,

Any jet not from Seattle is cr@p compared to Seattle's products from a controlling point of view. Being totally selfish of course but that's what I have found. Climb rates, speeds over the ground on descent, etc. they are the best. If I have the option of making a Boeing or F100/B146/A320/A330/E190 number 1, will be the Boeing product every time. Steep descent at 320 all the way down versus much shallower descent at, maybe, 310 for a F100... Will get 5-6 extra miles ahead just with that. Have had A330's going max (320KIAS) and had to slow a 73 down from 280KIAS in order to KEEP my 12 miles - not increase to it but keep what I had. And had this happen more than once!

Hence, any increase in non-Boeing traffic is a bugger when we have such a large mix of Boeing and non-Boeing types already.

So in answer to your question - no, they do not. Only consolation is the performance differential is not so great as with a F100.

Those in my group probably know who I am now... Ah well...
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Westausatc.

I think you have a valid pont when comparing the F100 with Boeing types or Airbus types on departure with rates of climb & departure speeds etc. It does lag behind.

However I disagree with your assumption that the F100 is a slow aircraft on arrival. Give me unrestricted to Haigh for RWY 21 or Spudo for 24, and the F100 will be happy doing 310KIAS to just before those fixes (about 12 nm).

Most of the time I find it annoying when given a speed restriction of 240 kts or 250 at FL200 or above, and then when further down the line, am asked to give 310 kts for sequencing? How does that work?

Eitherway if in XR's case if they do get A320's, they'll be chopping and changing speeds on descent just the same as the F100 to accomodate the Perth terminal area. Just like their colleges in the 737 or A330 or BAE 146.

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I know who are Westausatc!

You should try moving to Ireland, it is mostly A320/A319 and B738 here. The accents are a bit different though.

The Austrian's still fly the FK100 here though but there are no FK50s!
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That's interesting Westaus, considiering the A320 has a 10 knot higher VMO than the 737 ( 350 v 340 ), admittedly the A320 is a little harder to slow down but if you've been maintaining 340IAS instead of 330IAS for 80 odd miles ( 10kt buffer on VMO ) then I would'nt have thought it would be an issue ? Of course at the end of the day it depends on the 2 drivers and the company procedures, QF/Jet* have 250 below 5000 and 210 below 3, ( well at least they used to ).
Would'nt mind a dollar for everytime I got stuck behind a QF 737, Vapp at 10 miles ( OK, it would only be enough for a cuppa )
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west_atc,

Thinking more the sandpit atm. At least there they provide a free trip home as part of the package each year. But we will see where we end up (if anywhere different to here!)

Kimberley,

F100s may do 310KIAS all the way down but for us as enroute controllers, it is above 12-15,000 that it counts and they descend earlier than Boeings, hence lose the TAS advantage earlier and end up with a slower speed over the ground. If you were able to do 310KIAS with a similar descent profile to the Boeings, probably wouldn't be an issue.

It's the same reason Airbus aircraft are slower from top of descent to hand-off to APP and this is why I put Boeing first if I can.

HKF,

Have never been told by an Airbus they can do more than 320KIAS - will try and find out why next time. Maybe that has something to do with company procedures more than the jet itself but that is all opaque to us. All we get told is max is 320. And then (as above) with Airbus descending earlier than Boeing (although to be fair, the A320 isn't too far behind - miles better than the A330!), can end up in a less advantageous sequencing position.

As for the getting stuck behind a Boeing on final - I am not one of the chosen ones who has an approach licence. I am but a poor enroute controller so I have never seen that before. Interesting point though!

What would be really good for you guys is if you were able to come in and see how we do what we do and see the difference in aircraft performance. It would also be brilliant if we could spend more time in the cockpit as well!! But given all of our staffing situations and budgetary constraints, I think we know the chances of that happening...
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would also be brilliant if we could spend more time in the cockpit as well!!
Thanks to the brain surgeons at DOTARs, is that even possible anymore ?

Not sure what the Oz operators are up to these days regarding speed restrictions, our mob up here have'nt dumbed it down that far...yet But the A/C is definitely capable of .80/340, in smooth air, of course.
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20 August 2009


SKYWEST AIRLINES LTD

('Skywest' or 'the Company')



Skywest Airlines anticipates capacity boom with new North West Shelf gas venture



Skywest, Western Australia's ('WA') premier airline is expected to benefit from a significant increase in capacity. This follows the recently announced A$50 Billion Gorgon Project - the biggest ever trade deal in Australia's history. This is expected to lead to a significant infrastructure and employment boon for WA over the coming decades and will be Australia's largest ever resources development.



Skywest Airlines already flies the bulk of employees to the region under its existing 'fly-in fly-out' charter contracts on behalf of various mining customers and is also the primary provider of reliable air travel to the North West Shelf's major service hubs such as Karratha, and Exmouth.



Anticipating that the Gorgon Project can lead to a new wave of resource industry prosperity and development in Western Australia, Skywest Chairman, Jeff Chatfield, commented:



'The Company is considering further expansion of the existing route network to towns such as Onslow. This will facilitate any future travel and support infrastructure requirements due to the Gorgon Project.'



Skywest has also recently added services between Geraldton and Carnarvon with connections to Karratha. These new service additions have been well received by the public and business alike.



Last week, the Company added another F100 jet to its Perth-based fleet of fifteen high capacity aircraft.



It is expected that these investments will in turn have many spin-off benefits for regional communities and the people of Western Australia.



New safety and tracking features will soon be introduced by the airline in an extensive fleet upgrade that sees the installation of an integrated Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) into its entire fleet of 100-seat Fokker jets. The integrated GNSS will not only deliver more accurate aircraft tracking performance, which will allow for shorter approaches at night and in bad weather, but will also save time and fuel as well as significantly enhance safety and schedule reliability. The system will allow operation at night to certain mining related airports that would be impossible in previous circumstances. Skywest understands that it will be the first operator to have such facilities in operation in Australia.



Jeff Chatfield said:



'The installation of the GNSS system will allow us to meet the demand that the Gorgon Project will create as well as the many other exciting new developments in the West Australian resources sector. GNSS will give us the enhanced capability to increase the number of overall flights per day and allows us to land at night at the remote and unattended airfields typical of the major mining operations.'



The GNSS system would ensure the Fokker 100 remains a jet suitable for the missions undertaken by Skywest for years to come.





--ENDS--





For further information, please contact:



Skywest Airlines Ltd
Jeff Chatfield, Executive Chairman 07783 942 553
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So pick a "standard" speed for Boeings to descend at and another faster "standard" speed for Airbus/F100's to descend at and .....................

Maybe 290 for the Boeing and 310 for the Airbus/F100 types.

That might even out the speed difference caused by the different TOD points?

Then you'd start from a more level playing field wouldn't you?
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Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS)- F100's

Anybody expand on:

New safety and tracking features will soon be introduced by the airline in an extensive fleet upgrade that sees the installation of an integrated Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) into its entire fleet of 100-seat Fokker jets.
Are we talking Honeywell here.............?????

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Doesn't Cobham (National Jet) fly to Barrow? - Won't they be the ones getting the increased flights?
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Section 28- BE:
Fokker Services designed system in cooperation with FreeFlight Systems.

No FMS or autopilot component upgrades required.
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