Ansett gone .......but forgotten?
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NB-W - Indeed a fitting tribute, but the gentleman mentioned was not the nicest man to have as a boss.
He was a ruthless man, and would go through you rather than around you, but that is what building an Empire takes.
We should indeed remember Ansett, Sir Reg and the other Airlines mentioned were jobs for life. Then - not now.
My Dad did his 25 plus years with TN as a LAME engines) and after doing night school for years qualified as an accountant and moved to Fawlty Towers, originally in Swanston St opposite the Museum (God I loved wandering the halls there while waiting for him to finish work when I had to come to Town) and then Franklin St.
When I started with TAA Res in Melbourne and subsequently transferred to TN WNY Traffic, I expected them to cart me out in uniform, cold and lifeless.
Those days are gone.
My generation just barely missed the New Guinea postings, and I lament that.
Today's generation will make their own memories and I certainly hope they have their good times without too much bastardisation by increasingly greedy management.
Us older farts still remember the scream of Darts, the growl of Allisons and the brute force crackle of an unhuskitted set of JT8Ds. The rumble of the DC4 and DC6B.
They are our memories and we treasure them. Noone can take them away.
As long as you look up when you hear an aero engine, be it turbine, turboprop or piston, you are infected. You are one with us, and there is no known cure. Nobody wants one.
That way Ansett, TAA, Eastwest, Connair and Bushies will never ever die.
No matter where you are in the world, there is a part of a foreign field that is forever Essendon.
Clear on 4
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He was a ruthless man, and would go through you rather than around you, but that is what building an Empire takes.
We should indeed remember Ansett, Sir Reg and the other Airlines mentioned were jobs for life. Then - not now.
My Dad did his 25 plus years with TN as a LAME engines) and after doing night school for years qualified as an accountant and moved to Fawlty Towers, originally in Swanston St opposite the Museum (God I loved wandering the halls there while waiting for him to finish work when I had to come to Town) and then Franklin St.
When I started with TAA Res in Melbourne and subsequently transferred to TN WNY Traffic, I expected them to cart me out in uniform, cold and lifeless.
Those days are gone.
My generation just barely missed the New Guinea postings, and I lament that.
Today's generation will make their own memories and I certainly hope they have their good times without too much bastardisation by increasingly greedy management.
Us older farts still remember the scream of Darts, the growl of Allisons and the brute force crackle of an unhuskitted set of JT8Ds. The rumble of the DC4 and DC6B.
They are our memories and we treasure them. Noone can take them away.
As long as you look up when you hear an aero engine, be it turbine, turboprop or piston, you are infected. You are one with us, and there is no known cure. Nobody wants one.
That way Ansett, TAA, Eastwest, Connair and Bushies will never ever die.
No matter where you are in the world, there is a part of a foreign field that is forever Essendon.
Clear on 4
Best all
EWL
Zaptasblood, amoungst other crap you said
really how so?
So you think AN and TN got together with the regulator and it was all cheese and bikkies!! You don't think there were any expansion troubles, no new Aircraft to introduce, no grumbling Pilot's to appease, no Managers above you wanting you to more with less, no stress at all.
Henry and his predecessors introduced Australia to the Jet age my friend. What have todays mob done? oh yeah introduced the modern age of A320, 767, 737 146 F50 Oh hang on, Henry did all that for them in the 1980's................
The Flight Ops Managers of today have no idea of how to run a real Airline, it was all done by their predecessors.
And don't tell me Virgin Blue/Tiger/Vaus Flight Ops managers have since done it better than Henry. They all worked directly under him at Ansett Flight Ops pre-89
Henry was a true gentleman, I haven't seen him for nearly 20 years but I guarantee you he would still know my name if I bumped into him on the street.
He checked on and flew the 767, 737 and the F27 all at the same time, an exceptional Pilot/manager that was very hands on.
Henry was a nice guy but a drovers dog could have managed flite ops back in a regulated system.
So you think AN and TN got together with the regulator and it was all cheese and bikkies!! You don't think there were any expansion troubles, no new Aircraft to introduce, no grumbling Pilot's to appease, no Managers above you wanting you to more with less, no stress at all.
Henry and his predecessors introduced Australia to the Jet age my friend. What have todays mob done? oh yeah introduced the modern age of A320, 767, 737 146 F50 Oh hang on, Henry did all that for them in the 1980's................
The Flight Ops Managers of today have no idea of how to run a real Airline, it was all done by their predecessors.
And don't tell me Virgin Blue/Tiger/Vaus Flight Ops managers have since done it better than Henry. They all worked directly under him at Ansett Flight Ops pre-89
Henry was a true gentleman, I haven't seen him for nearly 20 years but I guarantee you he would still know my name if I bumped into him on the street.
He checked on and flew the 767, 737 and the F27 all at the same time, an exceptional Pilot/manager that was very hands on.
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EWL,
Nice captures it all. For me the screaming Darts, the smell of kero and the people.
Things this generation seem to miss with frustrating regularity.
EWA, Ansett,............ it WAS a family !
Cheers all and happy memories,
SRU
Nice captures it all
. For me the screaming Darts, the smell of kero and the people. Things this generation seem to miss with frustrating regularity. EWA, Ansett,............ it WAS a family !
Cheers all and happy memories,
SRU
ANSETT will never be forgotten at the Queensland Air Museum at Caloundra. Here is the former VH-FNQ still undergoing reassembly in July. Ultimately she will be displayed as VH-FNQ in the "Delta" livery.
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Ansett Great Company...
I worked for them straight out of highschool and had some great work colleagues and some terrific pilots!
Now three ex employees are now currently flying with me... Still has the Ansett flair
I worked for them straight out of highschool and had some great work colleagues and some terrific pilots!
Now three ex employees are now currently flying with me... Still has the Ansett flair
I really miss working for Ansett. It was a great company to work for - everyone was more than just a number. A real family company and one that I was very proud to work for. There will never be another Ansett...
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If anyone has a copy of the Ansett induction video I got my face on while working First/Business/Golden Wing checkin at AN ADL, please give me a yell.
I left for the Agency side shortly after.
It is out there somewhere, but I fear lost to the years as it was back in 1991.
Great pic Fris - pity nobody is restoring an Eeenie Weenie or TN girl.
Beat FNQ out many many times at DPO and WNY.
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I left for the Agency side shortly after.
It is out there somewhere, but I fear lost to the years as it was back in 1991.
Great pic Fris - pity nobody is restoring an Eeenie Weenie or TN girl.
Beat FNQ out many many times at DPO and WNY.
Best all
EWL
While we've got you all so fondly reminiscing, it might be an opportune time for me to try to get something for all my Golden Wing points?
I'll settle for a Hamilton-Essendon sector!
I'll settle for a Hamilton-Essendon sector!
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Ansett was my first airline job and remain thankful for the opportunity.
I had a great time working there and received excellent training.
To a large degree I was treated as an individual and with some respect.
Ansett went guts up for many reasons but that is history and for another thread.
Yep I miss them because it was a true alternative and at the time a better employer.
The industry has become too concentrated with little choice for pax and employees. Despite higher fares it was a good thing to have EW, TN ,AN,QF, airlines nsw, eastern,compass etc out there until they failed or were gobbles up and $h@t out the other end.
Its nice to remember but we cannot live in the past.
I have some great mates ex AN and made plenty more at QF.Its not the colour of your shirt or what hat you wear.Its what you are inside
Make the most of your life.Its too bl00dy short not to.
I had a great time working there and received excellent training.
To a large degree I was treated as an individual and with some respect.
Ansett went guts up for many reasons but that is history and for another thread.
Yep I miss them because it was a true alternative and at the time a better employer.
The industry has become too concentrated with little choice for pax and employees. Despite higher fares it was a good thing to have EW, TN ,AN,QF, airlines nsw, eastern,compass etc out there until they failed or were gobbles up and $h@t out the other end.
Its nice to remember but we cannot live in the past.
I have some great mates ex AN and made plenty more at QF.Its not the colour of your shirt or what hat you wear.Its what you are inside
Make the most of your life.Its too bl00dy short not to.
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What I miss are the Drw trips on the 727, London and New York were great overnights but nothing better than having a cold beer by the pool at the Travelodge in Drw.
Them were the days.
Them were the days.
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The Travelodge at Darwin...we should not go there!!
Ah!... The stories we could tell from those overnights with 727 and F27 crews from both Ansett and TAA getting together seven nights a week!
The debauchery, pranks, dinners, fun and games, washed down with lots of lemonade and coke!
Strewth, this could start a thread that may never stop!
Ah!... The stories we could tell from those overnights with 727 and F27 crews from both Ansett and TAA getting together seven nights a week!
The debauchery, pranks, dinners, fun and games, washed down with lots of lemonade and coke!
Strewth, this could start a thread that may never stop!
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I know the Travelodge was a crew pub, but was that before the Don Hotel?
Did a 36 hour layover with a lady friend of my fathers who was a TN F/A.
This all pre Cyclone Tracey.
Went up on TN556 - "Big George" Tango Bravo Golf MEL ADL ASP DRW ande came back on the girl who always seemed to bring me home Tango Juliet Alpha DRW ISA BNE SYD MEL - I think that was TN570 but memory has faded with time and wear and tear.
Still have the pics of a very lean (then) pre Loco Bloko sipping Ginz and Tonicz around the pool in a pair of Melbourne High School budgie smugglers with the ladies of the cabin crew, but that was the 70's. I was out of my depth and league but didn't mind drowning one little bit.
That was a big fun layover.
Eye opener for an 18 year old and a wonderful bunch of ladies.
Best all
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Did a 36 hour layover with a lady friend of my fathers who was a TN F/A.
This all pre Cyclone Tracey.
Went up on TN556 - "Big George" Tango Bravo Golf MEL ADL ASP DRW ande came back on the girl who always seemed to bring me home Tango Juliet Alpha DRW ISA BNE SYD MEL - I think that was TN570 but memory has faded with time and wear and tear.
Still have the pics of a very lean (then) pre Loco Bloko sipping Ginz and Tonicz around the pool in a pair of Melbourne High School budgie smugglers with the ladies of the cabin crew, but that was the 70's. I was out of my depth and league but didn't mind drowning one little bit.
That was a big fun layover.
Eye opener for an 18 year old and a wonderful bunch of ladies.
Best all
EWL
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Well, you better show us the pics, Mate...'cause I was there in the pre Tracy days and the post Tracy days too!...and I'm wondering already if you were the guy that...no, hang on, wont go there!
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Being a TN bloke, it was a sport, no change that, a right of passage, to beat the bastards off the block, in the Great Australian Air Race, especially SYD/PER and we always enjoyed a little sledging on the trip, now I miss em like hell, but appreciate what we had, meeting them for a beer and more sledging "you blokes go via ADL ,where the fcuk have yer been"? was the standard remark if we got off the blocks first, (I have actually seen AN taxing out with the staircase sticking out like a giant indicator and still retracting just to beat us) couldn't do it now, great days, would not swap it for quids.
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Okay
Have the first set scanned
I just need to email them to someone who knows how to post them here in and acceptavle font.
Top one is me second is 3 of the girls around the pool and 3rd is TJA on the stand at DRW.
I should have given you all the email initially. Home is (and I have to paraphrase this as the room doesn't seem to like emails) jetsetrk @ bigpond.net.au and work is ron @ jetsetdpo.com - sorry had to put the spaces in to get this to display.
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Have the first set scanned
I just need to email them to someone who knows how to post them here in and acceptavle font.
Top one is me second is 3 of the girls around the pool and 3rd is TJA on the stand at DRW.
I should have given you all the email initially. Home is (and I have to paraphrase this as the room doesn't seem to like emails) jetsetrk @ bigpond.net.au and work is ron @ jetsetdpo.com - sorry had to put the spaces in to get this to display.
best all
EWL
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