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Old 10th Aug 2009, 18:25
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jitconnict?

Tired old joke people. Move on.

Do computers sold in Straya not have an "e" on the keyboard? Its also a noun so use the shift key to get a J.

Carry on.
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If today's SMH article below is anything to go by, it seems to the interested bystander that Jetconnet is simply the entre?
Captain is blown off course. Dixon bangs new drum

Geoff Dixon knows which side his brioche is buttered. When the former Qantas boss spoke at an aviation conference in Sydney last week we couldn't help but notice that he quoted from, ahem, a ''credible industry model'' for forecasting developed by Seabury Aviation & Aerospace.

Apparently, it was predicting an unprecedented decline in global passenger revenue. Dixon banged on about how that could lead to a wave of merger and acquisition activity in the sector.

It's perhaps at this point we should note that Dixon signed up to a directorship less than two months ago with Seabury Aviation & Aerospace. Did we mention that it happens to have an M&A department? Nothing like drumming up a little business.

Thing being, the next day Dixon's successor at Qantas, Alan Joyce, pooh-poohed the idea of any M&A activity, saying the ''time is absolutely not right'' for mergers with competitors and a distraction from the job of running an airline. Such a drag having to hand over power on the way out.

Meanwhile, those former private equity buyout links at Qantas just keep popping up. We've spotted another name Dixon may be familiar with on the dinner ticket at Seabury. David Turnbull, a former director of Allco Finance, which was to be a significant holder of a private equity-owned Qantas that Dixon was going to run, is the chairman of Seabury Asia.
Despite AJ's protests, I see a seachange in the wind. No M&A's, just a jointly owned Global Fleet leased to the airlines that make up the Alliance.

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Colgan Airways? Good one ******** what sort of comparison can be drawn there? 100% sure that my mates flying at Jetconnect (who are all 1000s hours+ 121/125 turboprop) have "seen icing" before.

Does your text message alert say "retard retard...?"
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Balance whilst you are entitled to your opinion, as a qf driver, I find your comments to be an embarressment. I'm sure the vast majority of your colleagues would agree.

By expressing such an opinion publicly, you only give the Qantas haters more ammunition...please think about it.
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Chop chop? Wrong, mate! Before you get abusive, I suggest a little research on the topic. So, what does your SMS alert say chop chop, given this:

Pilots Set Up for Fatigue, Officials Say Ny Times May 13

WASHINGTON — The head of the National Transportation Safety Board on Wednesday told executives of Colgan Air, whose plane crashed outside Buffalo in February, that paying new pilots very low wages without taking into account that some would commute across the country to their jobs constituted “winking and nodding” at safety policy.

Members of the board said that the crew of the twin-engine turboprop that crashed, killing all 49 people on board and one on the ground, was set up for fatigue and inattention before they even took off, partly because of the structure of the commuter airline business.

In the crash, the first officer, Rebecca L. Shaw, 24, a Colgan employee for about a year, apparently pulled an all-nighter to get a free transcontinental trip to work. She was living near Seattle and commuting to her job at Colgan’s operation in Newark, according to board investigators. She flew from Seattle to Memphis in a spare seat on one FedEx jet, and to Newark on another, planning to sleep in a crew lounge, investigators said. The airline said Wednesday evening that her rate of pay, for a minimum of 75 hours a month, was $23,900 a year.

The captain, Marvin D. Renslow, 47, who had been with Colgan since September 2005, had flown to Newark from his Florida home the previous evening. He was logged on to a computer at 3 a.m.; investigators are not sure where he slept, but he was known to have sometimes used the crew lounge at Newark, even though the airline had threatened to fire pilots who used it for overnight stays. The average salary for a captain is $67,000, Colgan said.

The board on Wednesday held its second of three days of hearings on the Feb. 12 crash of Continental Connection Flight 3407, operated by Colgan Air. The turboprop plummeted to the ground during its approach to Buffalo Niagara International Airport. While a final report is months away, broad recommendations seem likely, especially concerning fatigue.

A Federal Aviation Administration scientist, Tom Nesthus, testified that sleepy pilots were generally unable to judge the extent of their impairment, and likely to have trouble concentrating and following multiple sources of information. In the crash, the crew lost track of their deteriorating airspeed, and when a warning system activated, Captain Renslow reacted wrongly, pulling up the nose of the Bombardier Dash 8 Q400, instead of pushing it down, to regain airspeed and improve the angle of the wings.

The plane went into a stall, meaning the combination of angle and speed left the wings unable to generate lift.

The acting chairman of the board, Mark V. Rosenker, said the company was “winking and nodding” about its pilots’ commuting practices. Another board member, Kathryn O. Higgins, said, “When you put together the commuting patterns, the pay levels, the fact that your crew rooms that aren’t supposed to be used, are being used, I think it’s a recipe for an accident.”

Board investigators found that the crew lounge was, in fact, used inappropriately, and the airline recognized the problem with the practice. “It’s not quality rest,” Harry Mitchel, Colgan’s vice president for flight operations, testified. “There’s a lot of activity in our crew rooms.”

A safety board member, Deborah A. P. Hersman, said Wednesday that Ms. Shaw had told one FedEx pilot that there was a “couch with my name on it” in the Colgan pilot’s lounge in Newark where she would sleep.

But Daniel Morgan, vice president for safety and regulatory performance at Colgan Air, said the airline had abided strictly by rules on how many hours a pilot could work in a shift, and how many hours were given between shifts, and could not control employees’ off-hours behavior. “You’re adults, you’re professionals, use the time we’ve given you to rest,” he said. Pilots could share apartments near the base, he said.

Both pilots can be heard yawning on the cockpit voice recorder.

Investigators found that Colgan’s pilots frequently live hundreds or thousands of miles from their crew base, and board members were openly skeptical that the two pilots were atypical.

Mr. Rosenker, the acting chairman, said during a break in the hearing that he and his colleagues had not surveyed commuting practices at other commuter airlines but that it might be revealing for the F.A.A., which licenses pilots and airlines, to do so.

At the hearing, Ms. Higgins asked, “What’s the nexus between commuting and fatigue?”

“Boy, that’s difficult,” Mr. Mitchel answered, adding that the answer would depend on the individual.

Over two days of hearings, the airline has varied between protesting its blamelessness and asking for help. The company said it was trying to make sure pilots complied with its fatigue policy — including a requirement not to commute in by plane on the day a duty shift begins.

On Tuesday it said Captain Renslow had lied on his job application by listing only one of the three times that he had failed a hands-on proficiency exam, called a check ride, and that the airline was hampered by insufficiencies in a federal law intended to help carriers gather information like that on job applicants. One company witness asked the board for help in getting Congress to change the laws.

But Colgan had not taken the step that some safety board experts pointed out, asking pilots to sign privacy waivers so the Federal Aviation Administration could divulge their records to the company.

After Colgan hired Captain Renslow, he failed two more check rides, but eventually was certified to fly the Dash 8, the plane that crashed.
and this:

From AIN Online: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/ny...ilot.html?_r=1

Although the pilots reported ice accretion on the airplane’s windshield and wings, airplane performance modeling and simulation conducted by the NTSB show that icing had “minimal effect” on the stall speed of the airplane.
And reel? Most of my fellow QF pilots that I have talked to, agree with me. I just have the guts to say it, and not try to be all sissy and politically correct. Sorry, mate.
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I just have the guts to say it, and not try to be all sissy and politically correct. Sorry, mate.
Your a dick mate, and you dont know what your talking about. How the **** can you bring in Colgan air into this Discussion.
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~sigh~ It's been a while since I've posted on this forum. I now remember why.

If you aren't a left wing, soft-on, pro-race-to-the-bottom, politically correct, ignorant fool, then you are pretty much vilified here. These are the loudest people, and if you have another opinion, well, it's much like Canberra. The minority win.

Outa here.
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