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Old 22nd Jun 2009, 00:32
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QF A330 servere turbulence

Six passengers and a crew member have been injured onboard a Qantas flight from Hong Kong to Perth.
In a statement, Qantas confirmed flight QF68 encountered 'severe turbulence' over Borneo, north of Darwin, approximately four hours after leaving Hong Kong.
The plane is an Airbus A330-300, the same type of plane involved in the Air France Airbus crash earlier this month that killed 228 people.
It is understood six passengers and one crew member sustained minor injuries and were treated onboard.
A total of 206 passengers and 13 crew were onboard the flight.
The Captain has reported minor damage to two overhead panels in the cabin.
The flight landed at Perth International Airport close to its scheduled arrival time about 7:30am (WST).
Qantas says there is no reason to link the incident to other recent inflight events involving A330 aircraft.
In October last year, a Qantas Airbus travelling from Singapore to Perth was forced to land at Learmonth after nosediving hundreds of feet in seconds, injuring about 70 people.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau will investigate the incident.
A330 not having much luck lately, just wait for the media beat up on this one.
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Old 22nd Jun 2009, 00:45
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If it wasnt Qantas or an A330 it wouldnt even rate a story on the news
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Old 22nd Jun 2009, 00:52
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Interesting that QF thought it shrewd to get out a press release before the aircraft landed -

The aircraft is operating normally and, following medical advice, is proceeding to Perth. It is scheduled to land at around 7:30 local time.
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A Qantas support team, along with medical personnel, will be at Perth Airport for the arrival of the flight.
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The Australian even named the captain by 10.00am EST.

All the newspapers now carry these sorts of lines after airline incidents- Were you on the flight or do you know someone that was? Email us or call XX-XXXX_XXXX

What is it about airline incidents that they love so much?
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What is it about airline incidents that they love so much?
It is because of the same predilection that people have for the so called 'reality tv shows' that they also like reading about tragedy affecting others or who is having an affair with whom.A sad truth about people in society.
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Providing the story is reasonably accurate, as this one is, why shouldn't it be reported?
If it only makes people realise the need to keep seat belts fastened at all times while seated, then it's a good thing.
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One of the answers to the media interest may be for Pruners to bombard the appropriate email address with "witness reports".

"I wasn't on the flight, nor did I know of anybody on the flight. In fact I have never flown before or could identify an Airbus from a school bus, but I know of the dangers of "air pockets". My pockets have lots of air, they are obviously "air pockets". Fill them with money, stop them being "air pockets" and I'll say anything you like.

But first, won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!"

Twiggs: Exhibit A on the accuracy of the report.

Qantas flight plunges, injuring seven passengers
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A cut and paste from the SMH-

"It was quite sudden ... there was slight bumping and the plane just dropped."

Mr Whitehead said passengers were told the radar was not functioning "so the plane didn't see (the air pocket) and went straight into it".
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Nothing wrong with the accuracy, I'm sure Mr Whitehead did say those exact words.
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Quote from the Australian:

Elsie Hudson, who was also part of the group, said Ms Richard was not wearing a seat belt when the turbulence hit.

"There was this massive drop and Vicky who was with us she didn't have a seat belt on and she hit the roof, the console, and she actually cracked it and took one of the light covers off," Ms Hudson said.
Helloooo? Helloooooooo? (Taps said passenger on forehead). Is there anybody home? You don't believe in listening to the multiple preflight and inflight PAs warning about this? Or you just do your own thing anyway?
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Twiggs, the references to "air pockets" and the picture of the 737-800 lost me.
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"Air pockets" are Qantas's version of cheese pockets (toasted cheese sambo's) - only Qantas has replaced the cheese with air.
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Dear ABC Journos, et al,

could you please find a new, more accurate discription of a aircraft descent than 'NOSEDIVED'?

It only continues to confirm your dumb ar$ed ignorance and stupidity.


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How about charging the pax not wearing seatbelts for the cost to repair the overheads?
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The most amazing thing about this episode is that we- the staff found out about it-BEFORE it was released to the media/punters.

A ZZ Corporate broadcast came out about 20 min BEFORE any of the press.

WOW.........things are changing.

The Comm's team are treating us like we are working FOR the same company.

If Dixon was still here -we would not see a ZZ message-at least 24-48 hours later !

Agree about pax not wearing seat belts.........some dopes will never get it !!!
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Capt Kremin,
If you read some of twiggs' other posts you will understand her comments a little more clearly.

I do like her comment about accuracy.
Nothing wrong with the accuracy, I'm sure Mr Whitehead did say those exact words.
Then to see a pic of a 737 when the aircraft in question is an airbus A-330 and to read that the passenger in question made a quantitative statement such as
He said the Airbus fell a "reasonable distance".
(He obviously had an altimeter in his watch).
Not only that but twiggs was obviously there and heard Mr Whitehead say those words exactly as reported.
Yes twiggs there is nothing wrong with the accuracy of this and other media reports

Twiggs,Although I believe in freedom of speech and of the press why don't the media write up about the many people who were undoubtedly killed on the roads over the previous weekend all over the world.
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From another careless or maybe carefully scripted title from a news outlet
Extreme Turbulence ...
I'll have to use that terminology next time when light chop is encountered. Good to see journalism at its best once again. The QF bashers are salivating over this one and yet with a number of recent incidents like EK tailstrike and BA Joburg one wonders why the lack of media coverage over these

Turbulence definitions:
Different intensities of turbulence

Light turbulence - briefly causes slight, erratic changes in altitude and/or attitude.
Light chop - slight, rapid and somewhat rhythmic bumpiness without noticeable changes in altitude or attitude.
Moderate turbulence - similar to light turbulence, but greater intensity. Changes in altitude/attitude occur. Aircraft remains in control at all times. Variations in indicated air speed.
Moderate chop - similar to light chop, but greater intensity. Rapid bumps or jolts without obvious changes in altitude or attitude.
Severe turbulence - large, abrupt changes in altitude/attitude. Large variation in indicated airspeed. Aircraft may be temporarily out of control.
Extreme turbulence - aircraft is violently tossed about and is impossible to control. May cause structural damage. (From casa website)


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DutchRoll wrote ;"Helloooo? Helloooooooo? (Taps said passenger on forehead). Is there anybody home? You don't believe in listening to the multiple preflight and inflight PAs warning about this? Or you just do your own thing anyway?"

Dont make out that passengers are knuckledragging idiots who just love to ignore all the rules, because the majority aren't and in this case they aren't breaking any rules.

I could state here, "hellllloooo? hellllloooo?" (taps said pilot on the forehead). Is there anybody home? Why didnt the pilot turn on the fasten seatbelt sign?

Because obviously the pilots didnt see this coming, and neither did the pax.

Is it compulsory to wear seat belts when the seatbelt sign is out in the cruise?

No its not. Its advised to wear them, but its not compulsory, so if your not going to enforce such a rule then dont come on here implying all pax are boneheads because they are not wearing them.

Incidents like this will always happen because at some stage there will always be someone heading for the toilet or stretching there legs (you cant expect someone to sit in an airline seat for 8+ hours).

And by the way whenever i fly, and thats regularly, i ALWAYS wear my seatbelt.
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I read one chap said they dropped the equivalent of a 30 storey building.Hmmm.
Keep that in mind when the official reports come out.
Incident happened about 2.30 a.m. If thats right surely most pax would have been belted up seated at least and sleeping.From reports one of those hurt was waiting for the lav.Probably a slightly better possie than being on it at the time.
You'd think it was only buses that hit turbulence and nosedive.
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Is it compulsory to wear seat belts when the seatbelt sign is out in the cruise?
It is QF policy to wear the seatbelt when seated. This is clearly stated in the CSM/Flight Crew PA's, and the preflight safety briefing. The seatbelt sign is turned off to facilitate meal services and toilet stops.....not so people can release their seatbelts while they are seated. Maybe one day the minority (also known as 'knuckledragging idiots') will listen.

PS...shame all pax cant be bound and gagged after any incident so they cant speak to the media......or better still, maybe the media could be held accountable for their sensationalised, misleading and inaccurate reporting...(which is usually facilitated by ridiculous quotes from passengers...)
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