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and back to the question....
now that you're all done, back to the question! Has anyone had any further information about what is happening? The silence from all has been deafening!
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QANTAS MEDIA SPECULATION
Some members have been rightly concerned about some of the quite irresponsible journalism that has been evident in newspapers and on television and radio recently. In what can best be described as a media feeding frenzy, speculation about the ongoing viability of the Qantas Group has been plastered all over the place.
Much of the speculation has been around Qantas’ announced job cuts across the group, and this has naturally concerned Long Haul Flight Attendants. As I indicated in my last newsletter to you, we are working closely with the Company to manage the surplus from the downturn in flying in the Long Haul Division. At this stage we are comfortable that the efforts that crew have already made via the EBA, reduced absenteeism greater productivity and a range of leave and leave burn options have placed in what I believe to be a good position to avoid job losses.
As I have said previously, if there is any sudden change to the status quo we would immediately advise you. We have received many emails from members who are also offering solutions to the problem of the surplus and we encourage crew to continue to give us feedback.
Naturally many of the suggestions have already been worked through with the Company but occasionally something comes up that hasn’t been considered. I know that many of you are eager to meet as a group and you will have an opportunity to do that at the meetings that have already been announced.
If there were to be any urgent need to consult the members we would advise you immediately of changed meeting dates and times. At the moment Michael Mijatov is on Long Service Leave Burn like many of our members and Lee Lam and I are working with Qantas Industrial Relations with our IR team to make submissions to the Award Modernization Process as a result of the changes to the Federal Industrial Relations laws.
Award Modernization is very complex as we are writing a brand new award for all flight attendants in Australia. It will be the minimum conditions that Flight Attendants can work under and obviously all flight attendants including Regional and Domestic crew are making submissions to the AIRC as are all the employers.
Our deadline for these submissions is drawing to a close in the next couple of weeks. Long Haul crew who have always worked under an EBA need not be concerned about this process but it is essential that we make sensible submissions and try to reach agreement where possible with the major employers. Although the new laws are superior to Work Choices they still have many complexities.
Below are the details of the meetings scheduled for the next couple of months. Prior to the meetings, Michael Mijatov will be attending the ACTU congress and following that we should be in a far better position to give a longer-term outlook on the position of Qantas. As you can imagine, our discussions with the Company are ongoing, and the last thing we want crew to think is that we are not exploring every avenue to protect ALL crew jobs.
We have received some suggestions from crew which may become necessary for wider discussion with the membership if the longer term future for flying does not improve. Following widespread ACTU comment some members have suggested reduced divisors. We do not believe that it is necessary to contemplate this at the moment.
Our QCCA members are working to lower divisors, which do not affect base pay but makes more work available to the QAL crew. This is a cost to the company but one that is being borne as a result of the continuing cooperation of Long Haul crew to assist the business to manage in the current circumstances.
There are still large leave balances in the Domestic area of the business and the Company is in discussion with the SH FAAA about leave burn processes. This will allow Qantas the flexibility to flex work around across the divisions to ensure no job losses anywhere at this stage. Long Haul Crew have already undertaken this over the last few years.
As always you have our commitment to your best interests; please show your commitment by attending the meetings.
SYDNEY MEETING DATES
9th, 10th, 15th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 26th June
Venue: FAAA Office, 1st Floor,
20 Ewan Street MASCOT
Tel: (02) 8337 1111
BRISBANEMEETING DATES
16th, 17th, 18th June
Venue:Queensland Council of Unions, Level 5, TLC Building,
16 Peel Street, SOUTH BRISBANE
Tel: (07) 3846 2468
MELBOURNE MEETING DATES
11th 12th, 23rd, 24th June
Venue: Trades Hall & Literary Institute, Annexe Room Level 1,
54 Victoria Street cnr Lygon Street
CARLTON SOUTH
Tel: (03) 9659 3549
All meetings will start at 10:30am and we anticipate them to finish at around 1pm.
Written and authorised by Steven Reed – President International Division
Some members have been rightly concerned about some of the quite irresponsible journalism that has been evident in newspapers and on television and radio recently. In what can best be described as a media feeding frenzy, speculation about the ongoing viability of the Qantas Group has been plastered all over the place.
Much of the speculation has been around Qantas’ announced job cuts across the group, and this has naturally concerned Long Haul Flight Attendants. As I indicated in my last newsletter to you, we are working closely with the Company to manage the surplus from the downturn in flying in the Long Haul Division. At this stage we are comfortable that the efforts that crew have already made via the EBA, reduced absenteeism greater productivity and a range of leave and leave burn options have placed in what I believe to be a good position to avoid job losses.
As I have said previously, if there is any sudden change to the status quo we would immediately advise you. We have received many emails from members who are also offering solutions to the problem of the surplus and we encourage crew to continue to give us feedback.
Naturally many of the suggestions have already been worked through with the Company but occasionally something comes up that hasn’t been considered. I know that many of you are eager to meet as a group and you will have an opportunity to do that at the meetings that have already been announced.
If there were to be any urgent need to consult the members we would advise you immediately of changed meeting dates and times. At the moment Michael Mijatov is on Long Service Leave Burn like many of our members and Lee Lam and I are working with Qantas Industrial Relations with our IR team to make submissions to the Award Modernization Process as a result of the changes to the Federal Industrial Relations laws.
Award Modernization is very complex as we are writing a brand new award for all flight attendants in Australia. It will be the minimum conditions that Flight Attendants can work under and obviously all flight attendants including Regional and Domestic crew are making submissions to the AIRC as are all the employers.
Our deadline for these submissions is drawing to a close in the next couple of weeks. Long Haul crew who have always worked under an EBA need not be concerned about this process but it is essential that we make sensible submissions and try to reach agreement where possible with the major employers. Although the new laws are superior to Work Choices they still have many complexities.
Below are the details of the meetings scheduled for the next couple of months. Prior to the meetings, Michael Mijatov will be attending the ACTU congress and following that we should be in a far better position to give a longer-term outlook on the position of Qantas. As you can imagine, our discussions with the Company are ongoing, and the last thing we want crew to think is that we are not exploring every avenue to protect ALL crew jobs.
We have received some suggestions from crew which may become necessary for wider discussion with the membership if the longer term future for flying does not improve. Following widespread ACTU comment some members have suggested reduced divisors. We do not believe that it is necessary to contemplate this at the moment.
Our QCCA members are working to lower divisors, which do not affect base pay but makes more work available to the QAL crew. This is a cost to the company but one that is being borne as a result of the continuing cooperation of Long Haul crew to assist the business to manage in the current circumstances.
There are still large leave balances in the Domestic area of the business and the Company is in discussion with the SH FAAA about leave burn processes. This will allow Qantas the flexibility to flex work around across the divisions to ensure no job losses anywhere at this stage. Long Haul Crew have already undertaken this over the last few years.
As always you have our commitment to your best interests; please show your commitment by attending the meetings.
SYDNEY MEETING DATES
9th, 10th, 15th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 26th June
Venue: FAAA Office, 1st Floor,
20 Ewan Street MASCOT
Tel: (02) 8337 1111
BRISBANEMEETING DATES
16th, 17th, 18th June
Venue:Queensland Council of Unions, Level 5, TLC Building,
16 Peel Street, SOUTH BRISBANE
Tel: (07) 3846 2468
MELBOURNE MEETING DATES
11th 12th, 23rd, 24th June
Venue: Trades Hall & Literary Institute, Annexe Room Level 1,
54 Victoria Street cnr Lygon Street
CARLTON SOUTH
Tel: (03) 9659 3549
All meetings will start at 10:30am and we anticipate them to finish at around 1pm.
Written and authorised by Steven Reed – President International Division
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Spoonfed Children
Does anyone read a newspaper?Does anyone contact the union?Does anyone attempt to form a commonsense opinion?
If its not the company's fault its the unions fault.
The company and union are not sheltered workshops for Cabin Crew.There are many who would like to think that they are.
Try to get hold of the big picture folks.The sky is not falling.Nor is it likely to.
Qantas has deferred aircraft delivery:taken older aircraft out of service and scaled back operations to loss making destinations.It has $3.5 billion in the bank and an undrawn credit facility of $500mil.Alan joyce is restructuring the mess that Dixon left him.
Qantas is not going broke.Not even close to it.It will make a profir this financial year.One of three non governent sponsored airlines to do so.
Bottom line :If Qantas goes broke then it will be an indication that the entire global aviation industry has collapsed.That aint gonna happen either.
So lets all calm down,take a deep breath and have faith in both Union and Qantas.Dixon is no longer running the place.If he was still here then you would have every right to be concerned.
He isnt so dont be
If its not the company's fault its the unions fault.
The company and union are not sheltered workshops for Cabin Crew.There are many who would like to think that they are.
Try to get hold of the big picture folks.The sky is not falling.Nor is it likely to.
Qantas has deferred aircraft delivery:taken older aircraft out of service and scaled back operations to loss making destinations.It has $3.5 billion in the bank and an undrawn credit facility of $500mil.Alan joyce is restructuring the mess that Dixon left him.
Qantas is not going broke.Not even close to it.It will make a profir this financial year.One of three non governent sponsored airlines to do so.
Bottom line :If Qantas goes broke then it will be an indication that the entire global aviation industry has collapsed.That aint gonna happen either.
So lets all calm down,take a deep breath and have faith in both Union and Qantas.Dixon is no longer running the place.If he was still here then you would have every right to be concerned.
He isnt so dont be
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Let's not count our chickens yet as the jury is still out with the leprechaun.It is still early days but I believe that a lot of this crisis is media fed and generated.Qantas is arguably in the best position of any airline and long term will ride it out.If QF goes under then all the other airlines are in deep trouble.
OCCR,let me see if I understand you.When you criticized the union it was acceptable and fair but when someone else does it they are a pain to deal with.That makes sense doesn't it.
If you take the time to read my previous posts you will find that I have been very critical of the FAAA and they have attacked me on this site quite a few times
You have to give them credit where its due, who would want their job having to listen to people like you all day
You have to give them credit where its due, who would want their job having to listen to people like you all day
