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Old 21st Jan 2009, 06:59
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 09:20
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"Two motors burnt out" : Get your facts straight : overtemp for a matter of seconds causes an inspection. Cheaper to replace the ENGINE with the spare and check it out/rebuild out of the aircraft.
have a look in the latest flight safety.....

"TURBINE ENGINES
GE CT79B engine over-temperature. Ref 510007363
LH and RH engines both exceded ITT limits. LH engine 999 degrees C for 38 seconds. Investigation found some signs of heat stress on the No.1 stage nozzle. RH engine 979.5 degrees C for 12 seconds. Nil evidence of heat stress to No.1 stage nozzle. Over-temperature occured during icing conditions. Both engines removed for inspection."
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The application was submitted by Air Partner Leasing No 2 Pty Ltd (Brisbane address) on 08 Jan 2009.
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Atleast we know where our taxpayers money is being wasted.
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Qld Govt reaffirms commitment to remote air services - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Not good for the folks at M*cair....
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 22:59
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 23:02
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Wow!!! 38 Seconds with one overtemp light on and 12 seconds with both on. Yes those red lights on the top of engine instrument panel with the big words ENGINE OV TEMP next to them meaning you are operating at 962 +3 -2.

Now that is a lot of time to react and bring the power back to max continuous (940) is it not?

Wow !! look at the power plant indications, 999 degrees for 38 seconds(from the report) the markings only go to one thousand.



SAAB 340 ITT indicator (digital readout component blank).


Classic case of inexperienced captain on type (yes/no)
Classic case of low total time (yes/no)
Classic case of pilot shortage equals promote quick (yes/no)
Classic case of early promotion insufficient training (yes/no)
Classic case of poor aircraft knowledge (yes/no)
Classic case of poor aircraft handling (yes/no)
Classic case of poor CRM (yes/no)
Fantastic case study for expensive mistakes and above factors (yes/no)


Ok, now who out there, much closer to what actually happened scored yes to at least seven of the yes / no answers?

Sad thing is this handling error cost a lot of money and time to the company resources.
Cant help think it has in some way contributed towards ******s poor financial position at present.
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 23:06
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The SAAB engines are not relevant to it demise, if the Pilot stuffs up, it's an accident and is covered by insurance.
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 23:21
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Powersfasher you are a w@nker!!!
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 23:35
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Wow hama, that was an intelligent and well thought-out reply!
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If the QLD Gov puts these routes out to 'tender', unless ****** goes under and Rex picks up the pieces, who would actually have the aircraft and aircrew to pick up all these routes ?
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 23:42
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certainly not REX if you believe the Singaporean threats of redundancies and refusal to negotiate on the pilot EBA!!
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 01:44
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That's right C/A. What does one believe. If REX does pick the eyes out of the Mackair carcass, then the threat of pilot redundancies should be eased. Mind you, it will also depend on what REX decide to do with the Mackair staff?

Either way, it's crafty maneuvering by LKH to keep his opponents off balance. That is unless of course there is a resergence of recruiting by the majors in the latter half of '09. Judgeing by what we are seeing in the mining industry, that may be a little further down the track than what many at first thought.
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 02:06
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Does Skytrans have the ability(airframes & staff) to do the routes ?

It would be sad for the good staff still there to have to go out job hunting at the moment with not much on offer.

Lets hope a rescue package can come from somewhere.
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Thumbs up

puff wrote:

If the QLD Gov puts these routes out to 'tender', unless ****** goes under and Rex picks up the pieces, who would actually have the aircraft and aircrew to pick up all these routes ?
My money would be on the pilot of the first Mckinlay Air Charter RPT run....
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 11:38
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What about Skyairworld and the EMB-145's? Do they have any spare capacity to pick up ****** routes?

The ****** pilots could find themselves getting around in a nice shiny jet. Could work out for the better.
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 11:46
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Lol - second best post of the year Xrlent100
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 23:48
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Ops normal, Do you think Westwing would have the infrustrucure to run the services at a profit? My bet is the Govt want to pay as little as posibble and couldn't really give a rats about the regional service. As long as an aircraft arrives and departs. I hope anyone who trys to pick up this contract really has a good look at the price they offer, for the sake of regional Qld.

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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 00:42
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Skyairworld, I don't think so! Think about, if you can't make money on these routes in a 30 seater turboprop then there is now way you could make money in a 50 seat jet!

History has shown these routes in QLD can only just support a 19 seat aircraft. In the last 20 years these routes have been operated by Flight West, *********, M@cair and Eastland Air using J32's, Bandit's Metro's, Kingair's and Saab's. The QLD government does not pay enough to operate anything larger than a 19 seat aircraft, if they did Sunstate would be operating them.
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