Vaus Wants To Delay Orders
Krusty How could the Compass Mk 11 failure, have any relevance to any argument about V Aus.
If you brain cells are so deficient that you cannot recall that Mk 11's failure was one of directorial pilferring, than perhaps you should stop spreading your malicious garbage before you do your credibility any more harm.
M
If you brain cells are so deficient that you cannot recall that Mk 11's failure was one of directorial pilferring, than perhaps you should stop spreading your malicious garbage before you do your credibility any more harm.
M
Easy maui!! No need to get personal.
I was making reference to the "passionate" people in this game that have placed their faith (and their eggs) into the basket of wishfull thinking! Most knew at the time that Compass was problematic to say the least, but there were still plenty willing to ignore the warning signs and dive in.
Sometimes that sort of "Damn the Torpedoes, full speed ahead" attitude works. Sometimes, sadly it doesn't. If you are one of the optimistic, willing to be underpaid and overworked throng, then for your sake I hope I'm wrong.
I was making reference to the "passionate" people in this game that have placed their faith (and their eggs) into the basket of wishfull thinking! Most knew at the time that Compass was problematic to say the least, but there were still plenty willing to ignore the warning signs and dive in.
Sometimes that sort of "Damn the Torpedoes, full speed ahead" attitude works. Sometimes, sadly it doesn't. If you are one of the optimistic, willing to be underpaid and overworked throng, then for your sake I hope I'm wrong.
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Goddammit
Were it not for Ansetts demise and the world economic boom, VB probably would have gone by the wayside. As Krusty says, sometimes it works (mostly through luck), most of the time these enterprises are adismal failure. Lucky for me, Vb were lucky back then, hopefully they'll be lucky again in the future, we need it.
but then again, I have no idea!!!
Were it not for Ansetts demise and the world economic boom, VB probably would have gone by the wayside. As Krusty says, sometimes it works (mostly through luck), most of the time these enterprises are adismal failure. Lucky for me, Vb were lucky back then, hopefully they'll be lucky again in the future, we need it.
but then again, I have no idea!!!
Krusty that's bulsmit. After some 75 posts on a company you have said you have no desire to join, why do you bother. What really is your motivation to carry on so.
And as for getting personal, 72 pilots and a whole family of other personnel would be justified in taking your constant denigration of their company and their efforts, as being personal.
M
And as for getting personal, 72 pilots and a whole family of other personnel would be justified in taking your constant denigration of their company and their efforts, as being personal.
M
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Ok, I'll bite!
Maui, you are absolutely correct. I have no desire to join VA whatsoever. After first looking closely at the rediculous (and there is no other way to put it) Terms and Conditions, I came to the conclusion that pay and lifestyle could not possibly be an incentive. As this was to be my incentive, I chose not to proceed.
Not only that, the significant exposure to a now reducing market, competitors, both foreign and local, who will use their muscle in a protracted price war, and the reliance for capital from an already highly geared parent, IMHO makes for a career moved based more on wishful thinking than sound judgement. But you've been there before haven't you? Which to me makes it all the more puzzleing!
And while we're counting posts, have a search for the postings of Dirty Deeds. He's closer to the source than I am, and frankly much more critical, but I have yet to see the same level of angst directed to him that you guys have to me. Is it possible because he is one of your own he may counter the insults with facts that you may, or may not be able to argue with?
Now according to you, (and your mate Sand Dune Sam amongst others), I therefore have no right to comment on the subject. I have an idea, lets create a login for this particular thread, and only those with a rose coloured VA employee number be allowed to participate. That way you can all feel warm and fuzzy, content in the knowledge that you have made the best possible decision for you and your families. right up to the point when the whole thing goes T!ts up!
But then I'll probably get the blame for that as well!
Maui, you are absolutely correct. I have no desire to join VA whatsoever. After first looking closely at the rediculous (and there is no other way to put it) Terms and Conditions, I came to the conclusion that pay and lifestyle could not possibly be an incentive. As this was to be my incentive, I chose not to proceed.
Not only that, the significant exposure to a now reducing market, competitors, both foreign and local, who will use their muscle in a protracted price war, and the reliance for capital from an already highly geared parent, IMHO makes for a career moved based more on wishful thinking than sound judgement. But you've been there before haven't you? Which to me makes it all the more puzzleing!
And while we're counting posts, have a search for the postings of Dirty Deeds. He's closer to the source than I am, and frankly much more critical, but I have yet to see the same level of angst directed to him that you guys have to me. Is it possible because he is one of your own he may counter the insults with facts that you may, or may not be able to argue with?
Now according to you, (and your mate Sand Dune Sam amongst others), I therefore have no right to comment on the subject. I have an idea, lets create a login for this particular thread, and only those with a rose coloured VA employee number be allowed to participate. That way you can all feel warm and fuzzy, content in the knowledge that you have made the best possible decision for you and your families. right up to the point when the whole thing goes T!ts up!
But then I'll probably get the blame for that as well!
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Seventy five posts on the one subject, that’s not obsessive.
Next thing you guys will be saying is that because I watched Kate Beckinsale amazing performance in Underworld, about seventy times that is obsessive too.
Surely not?
Next thing you guys will be saying is that because I watched Kate Beckinsale amazing performance in Underworld, about seventy times that is obsessive too.
Surely not?
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Bo43....I think you will find that KRUSTY has been interviewed and most likely rejected from both Virgin Blue and V Australia....he borrows lines from others, that being he's looked at the contract and it isnt for him..reality is, he is lashing out at the company and others for his own incapabilities.....
I dont have an employee number at VA, however I do know a few really good guys there and I can assure you, they wouldnt be taking any notice of the rot that comes out of the mouth of this individual. KRUSTY's own credibility comes into question when he of all people questions the motivation of others to make a career decision based on THEIR own personal circumstances.
Most of KRUSTY's mates at REX have left for greener pastures to join Jetstar or Virgin or even Qantas..doesnt surprise me he seems so bitter and twisted.
Merry Xmas by the way KRUSTY
I dont have an employee number at VA, however I do know a few really good guys there and I can assure you, they wouldnt be taking any notice of the rot that comes out of the mouth of this individual. KRUSTY's own credibility comes into question when he of all people questions the motivation of others to make a career decision based on THEIR own personal circumstances.
Most of KRUSTY's mates at REX have left for greener pastures to join Jetstar or Virgin or even Qantas..doesnt surprise me he seems so bitter and twisted.
Merry Xmas by the way KRUSTY
Gidday Sam, didn't take you long I see. Xmas is long gone old mate, and I just checked the site before going out for some very looked forward to New years celebrations. But I diverge...
A.a.f. certainly hit the nail on the head when it comes to some of you blokes! You don't know me, despite you often alluding to the contrary. I would like to however set the record straight, just so you don't have to wipe too much more egg from your face. Let's call it holiday spirit.
I have never had an interview with either VA or VB. I was offered an interview with VB approx 14 months ago, but had to decline due to personal reasons. I have not as yet been offered a second one, but sometimes that's the way it goes. Usually not for the sinister reasons that some believe, but merely because of timing. My reasons for not accepting the original invitation are as valid today as they were then, so I have no regrets, and I certainly do not feel cheated or disadvantaged. My decision not to even apply to VA, well, I've already told you why with regard to that one.
As far as my "own incapabilities" are concerned Sam, that's low even for you. I have never resorted to deriding another pilot's capabilities on this forum, and the idea that someone would do so, without even knowing the target simply beggars belief! If you were hoping to score points to help support you point of view, I'm afraid you just may have suffered a setback.
Now Sunfish,
C'mon, we're all anonymous friends here! What have you heard? If nothing else it'll give Maui and Sam some real ammo to fire at me!
A.a.f. certainly hit the nail on the head when it comes to some of you blokes! You don't know me, despite you often alluding to the contrary. I would like to however set the record straight, just so you don't have to wipe too much more egg from your face. Let's call it holiday spirit.
I have never had an interview with either VA or VB. I was offered an interview with VB approx 14 months ago, but had to decline due to personal reasons. I have not as yet been offered a second one, but sometimes that's the way it goes. Usually not for the sinister reasons that some believe, but merely because of timing. My reasons for not accepting the original invitation are as valid today as they were then, so I have no regrets, and I certainly do not feel cheated or disadvantaged. My decision not to even apply to VA, well, I've already told you why with regard to that one.
As far as my "own incapabilities" are concerned Sam, that's low even for you. I have never resorted to deriding another pilot's capabilities on this forum, and the idea that someone would do so, without even knowing the target simply beggars belief! If you were hoping to score points to help support you point of view, I'm afraid you just may have suffered a setback.
Now Sunfish,
C'mon, we're all anonymous friends here! What have you heard? If nothing else it'll give Maui and Sam some real ammo to fire at me!
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Your very good at cutting the suit to fit your own amount of cloth KRUSTY. All you do is troll pprune commenting allot about an airline you have no interest in joining, and then YOU have the audacity to put down those that have made a decision to take employment at that company.
Your snide remarks about VA's viability and the comments like "for guys families sake" when having a go at those that have made a decison to join VA, are nothing short of what you claim, deriding.
Many guys in VA have allot of experience and have been around the traps flying aircraft you havent. They have seen it all, and they have valid opinions in regards to VA and it's viability. They are well placed to make decisions regarding their families and their career. They have no regard for an individual like you that has never left the Sydney basin giving his "experienced" opinion.
How about you make this a new years resolution..go and find a VA Captain or senior F/O..maybe someone that has been O/S for a while, go and sit down with them and have a cup of coffee and a long chat about what they have done and where..and their reason for joining VA..You may be enlightened.
Aviation is full of risks, from when you first start, to wondering if your going to pass your command checkride in an airline and then keeping your job. How about you stop the smart alec remarks about VA and those that have taken a risk on joining VA and would be committed to making it viable.
To those that have joined VA, all the best and I hope things go well in 2009
Your snide remarks about VA's viability and the comments like "for guys families sake" when having a go at those that have made a decison to join VA, are nothing short of what you claim, deriding.
Many guys in VA have allot of experience and have been around the traps flying aircraft you havent. They have seen it all, and they have valid opinions in regards to VA and it's viability. They are well placed to make decisions regarding their families and their career. They have no regard for an individual like you that has never left the Sydney basin giving his "experienced" opinion.
How about you make this a new years resolution..go and find a VA Captain or senior F/O..maybe someone that has been O/S for a while, go and sit down with them and have a cup of coffee and a long chat about what they have done and where..and their reason for joining VA..You may be enlightened.
Aviation is full of risks, from when you first start, to wondering if your going to pass your command checkride in an airline and then keeping your job. How about you stop the smart alec remarks about VA and those that have taken a risk on joining VA and would be committed to making it viable.
To those that have joined VA, all the best and I hope things go well in 2009
Krusty I apologise. For too long I have thought you to be a miserable cynical know it all who just wishes to rain on other peoples parades. How wrong I was. I now see you as a shining white knight with infinite knowledge, experience and wisdom, bent on saving us all from ourselves. In the spirit of the season and on behalf of all the miscreants who have entertained thoughts that there anything good out there, I thank you for so willingly sharing with us all that vast wisdom and foresight accumulated over your long and meritorious career. Thank-you.
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... question, how can V Aus try to lure a QF FFPL or QFCL member into using their product? So compare the Q Business to the V Aust? What's the benefit of losing their status...
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Status?
You only have status if someone else credits you with it. Otherwise its called ego.
Pilots and cabin crew do not have status. There might be plenty of ego but there is no status.
Whatever it is that stops any QF crew going to VAus, it sure as sh!t aint status.
You only have status if someone else credits you with it. Otherwise its called ego.
Pilots and cabin crew do not have status. There might be plenty of ego but there is no status.
Whatever it is that stops any QF crew going to VAus, it sure as sh!t aint status.