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Old 23rd Nov 2008, 22:47
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One year of the new Government

In this morning papers there are almost rave reviews about the first year of the Rudd Government. Generally it appears they have become more popular and the Opposition less so. We all know the problems with the last Government in relation to aviation – virtually no vision and no reform at all other than the damage done by the sell off of the secondary airports.

Perhaps we could get some comment on what the new Government has done in the last 12 months for aviation. I do not know of any real solid achievements, but perhaps there are some in the pipeline, does anyone know of this? Let’s have some rational comment on this without any personal attacks.
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Dick,

Will be no doubt be pleanty to comment on when the Minister's aviation green paper comes down on Tuesday December 2nd.

Until then, it would simply be opinion.

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Dick,

If the government run's the economy as it is now [estimated to be in a deficit of $1billion] I'd hate to see what they do for aviation.

Three more years to get a better government in I'd say. It takes a year from having billion's of excess to running the country at a loss
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Well we did have the Senate Inquiry into CASA under the new government. That was an achievment, I mean the inquiry actually happened. Didn't it? This lot is all PR spin Thats what gets pollies elected, not substance.
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Skystar,

Trying to give all the credit for the excess to the previous government (during global boom when even Bush could make an economy look good) and all the blame for any deficit to the current government (during basically a global recession), is extremely unintelligent and politically biased.

Blaming the current government for anything that happened in the late 80's is equally so.
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So far it seems there has been a lot of talk but not a lot of action in most areas, aviation included.
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Yep

Got to agree with Baileys comment.

Seems to be plenty of giveaways,handouts, overseas trips ets. but not a hell of a lot of substance. K-Rudds interest in any particular issue has a mandatory requirement of a televison crew being involved as well.

Somehow I don't think saving GA is high on the to do list.
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Trying to give all the credit for the excess to the previous government (during global boom when even Bush could make an economy look good) and all the blame for any deficit to the current government (during basically a global recession), is extremely unintelligent and politically biased.
Not really, compared to know giving the handouts left right and centre.... The government has been in how many months? Already the deficit is [government] is $1billion. pfffttttt
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Skystar, the government is spending in an attempt to stimulate the economy, which has stopped along with the rest of the world. This is in line with what most other world governments are doing and is supported by most financial "gurus". If you want to blame them for the deficit, why not give them credit for bringing down interest rates
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direct.no.speed.....Well said and the subject of politics is going to be nothing more than the usual rhetoric from either camp and supposition...

Anyone with any intelligence would understand you can't blame the Rudd government for the current mess.If when their term is up there is something more concrete to object to would be fair but at the moment it would only be the usual rubbish...

Although I imagine Skystar320 would not object to the interest rates when he wants to buy something.He probably gets a lot of time to look in the shop windows as a police pushbike rider in Perth...

As Gingerbread said we will have to wait until the release of the Aviation report on 2nd Dec to see what the state of play is...
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Thanks for the heads up about 2 Dec.

Will await the papers release with some enthusiasm.

Anybody know where i read/download it?
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Expect it will be available to download from:

www.infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/index.aspx

But unlikely to be bedtime reading.
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Why I very much applaude the reduction in interest rate, let me point out that the RBA has got nothing to do with the government.

[I'm on a fixed interest rate anyhow]

RBA are a stand alone entity and lower / raise interest rates as they see fit given the current market.

The government can spend money, which they are, on pointless things to 'stimulate' the market again. Although this is fine, shouldnt they really be doing something 'good' for the economy? Somehow I dont see international trips on 'economic turnaround' agenda?

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All froth and bubble. Where are the computers for every student, the hospitals are stuffed still, the indiginous people are still living in a shattered society, work choices still here, broadband not fixed, nobody bothering about the slaughter of whales anymore, pensioners slowly going onto a starvation diet, ditto war veterans, ok its only a year, and a hard one, but if you can give carmakers $4 billion, perhaps, you could be a little generous towards other causes as well. As for Aviation, it, like many other industries will be left to fend for itself in the present climate, and I suspect Rudd wishes to God he hadn't won the darn thing, and let Howard and Costello deal with the shambles we all now live in, he could then have come along in four years time when its all over as our "saviour". But hey we said "sorry" and signed ourselves up for Kyoto (which is useless as T$ts on a bull) and if you don't mind all your money being tied up (like I have now) and your super in a spiral dive, we still have the sun, sea and sand and hopefully your health, so I guess we just keep on keeping on, and pray for better times ahead.
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The government can spend money, which they are, on pointless things to 'stimulate' the market again. Although this is fine, shouldnt they really be doing something 'good' for the economy?
Skystar320....If the government is doing something to stimulate the market in these difficult times then it's far from pointless isn't it?

You say that these moves are 'fine' but then say "shouldn't they be doing something 'good'....If helping the economy is not good then what is it?

Do you see the contradiction in your post?

It is good to see a Liberal supporter not blaming the Rudd government for the interest rate drop because any number of Liberal supporters blamed them when the interest rates went up....

Skystar,I'm not trying to ridicule you in my post because in another of your posts you said you were a Mountain bike Perth based policeman......nothing at all to ridicule about that.My Grandfather was in the NSW mounted police actually as well as a number of friends serving in the Police force at the moment..
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Lowerlobe its an example of both good / bad scene. Government spending money should stimulate the economy - should! if spent on the right things

But, you should agree aswell the money they are spending should be directed at more constructive ways i.e why not give the money to say states to spend on the health system, Perth certainly need's it.

I dont go for either party, the interest rates are made up with the RBA with no help from either government. Its what RBA believes should happen at that time on what the economy is looking like.

It will be interesting to see at christmas time if people spend big, like last year is only certainly going to inflame the 'current economic situation' I would have thought softly softly approach is better.

Then again, I'm not government, I can only mention what I believe should be the best way.
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the hospitals are stuffed still
Exactly.

Yet I still cannot understand why they threw the $4billion at the car making industry, but the government knows best!
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Sure they have, (getting back to the original question), they have injected money into QF and probably other airlines by way of countless airfares overseas.

Let's see who's on the next trip:

Mr Rudd
Mr Swann
My advisor
Your advisor
My media rep
Your media rep
The cameraman/woman
The audioman/woman
My wife
Your Wife
My writer
Your writer
The coffee maker
The hair stylist
The makeup artist
4 X good office staff ( to be decided by way of contest)

18 X Buisness class/1st class airfares anyone care to say how much?
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Alas Zoomy, excellent.
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As I said before Skystar this is not yet another Labour/Liberal argument fest...

I agree that the health system is in desperate need of life saving treatment.However, that is not going to happen overnight and is a complex issue for not only the Federal Government but the States as well.

As far as packages to stimulate the economy are concerned and as needy as they are I don't think spending money on the hospitals will get the market turned around.Unless of course you are in the business of bandages,syringes and so on...

As far as having a cheap shot at the travels of the PM you have a short term memory problem with Johnny....I could write pages on that but this is not the place for that...

By the way Skystar320....You did not say why you thought my post was intended to ridicule you.

You are a Perth city mounted policeman aren't you?
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