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Old 7th Nov 2008, 07:52
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Question Cabin Cleanliness

Hi All,

I wanted to create a poll to gauge your opinions on this...but couldn't figure out how.

I'm curious to know how important is a clean cabin to you? Would you rather depart on time in a slightly messy cabin, or depart behind schedule and travel in a clean cabin?

Reason I ask is as crew, we're constantly being pushed for OTP, and at times are told to not clean on a turnaround, and simply just place the safety card to the front of the seatpocket, in order to get the aircraft running ontime...but this is then embarrasing when having passengers sitting in a messy cabin.

So, as a minimum, what would you prefer to have been done when you get to your seat...do you look at things like carpet vacummed, no rubbish in seat pockets, seatbelts crossed?

Your thoughts are appreciated!

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Old 7th Nov 2008, 08:57
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It would be nice if the grubs on the previous sector did not make such a mess to start with! Its not hard really, even after a long haul flight.

They seem to think its a football stadium.... and no I do not appreciate what people do there either.

I much prefer a clean cabin.

I suppose for 5 mins or so extra beyond on time..... clean the cabin as best you can but if its already an hour late and a Sydney curfew is at stake, its a no brainer.

Is it JQ that ask folk to help by ensuring all rubbish etc is collected?
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I hate grubby, fingerprinted windows. As long as the seat itself isn't "crumbed" in biscuits, lets just get away ontime..
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It would be nice if the grubs on the previous sector did not make such a mess to start with! Its not hard really, even after a long haul flight.
It's interesting, I've flown across the Pacific quite a few times now and I've noticed a trend on arrival.
Often in cattle class the passengers will make some effort to clean up after them, even if it's only putting the pillow and blanket on the seat ready to be collected, same thing in the first class cabin. But in every trip I've been on Business class is absolutely trashed with pillows blankets and newspapers strewn about all over the place.

It's almost like the people who really have the money and travel 1st class appreciate and care for their surroundings while the people who make it into business and think they're the elite when they're not adopt the "I paid for it you will be my slave" attitude.

Strange
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Old 7th Nov 2008, 12:18
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I want to depart on time and with a clean cabin thanks!
There is no reason why it should not be so either as the fault lays with airline managment scheduling turnaround times too tight to allow for the cleaning. Something to do with the bottom line. A 15minute later departure means nothing to a passenger so long as the timetble shows that when you book as you adjust your times to suit the above. It is about time the paying public stopped accepting dirty aircraft.
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don't give a toss how the seat belts look
don't give a toss whether the carpet has been vacummed
hate having to brush food off the seat
hate unfolding the tray table to find gooey mess, squashed food, fizzy drink stains
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Buisness class was trashed on my flight as well pigs.
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 07:22
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i travel business class with the money from my own pocket. i do not think that i am elite ,and i leave my seat area the way that i found it .i do not expect any one to be a slave to me .but i do agree the state of the cabin after a flight leaves a lot to be desired.
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Err! Well!...aren't people employed to do these cleaning jobs? Like, flight attendants and others?

Or, is it part of the privilege of buying a ticket these days with Scum Bag Airlines, that one cleans the cabin on arrival with Scum Bag Airlines so that Scum Bag Airlines staff can go off and have a fag on the turn around!?

Some one care to enlighten me?
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how about an extra 10 frequent flyer points for every piece of rubbish you pick up on your way out the aircraft?
100 if you clean your own seat area!
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You're far too young to be smoking Pyro.
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Great thread - addresses some of my privately felt concerns.

The neat rows of cushions & blankets hide the fact that a few hundred smelly, sweaty pax have just been released from the metal tube an hour or so before. Just because the newspapers & cushions are picked up does not make the cabin clean.

No-one would sleep in a hotel bed with the previous guests linen (and the guest before, and before..) yet we are conditioned to doing just that in an airliner seat. How often, if ever, are the seat covers properly laundered?

I always use that hot towel thing to wipe down my tray, window etc (OCD in the making here...?!)

Singapore Airlines is the only airline that I am aware of where I see the cabin crew cleaning toilets as they come on shift. I think the average Qantas hostie would rather die than do something like that.
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You aint seen nothing yet !!!

If you people want to see what is an almost indesribeably filthy cabin looks like , go and see one from a flight that has just returned from the Haj.
The whole cabin needs fumigating and hosing out , if that could be done .
You really have to see it to believe it.
It's almost unreal.
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haj HAH!

You should have seen Ghana Airways flights when they used to arrive in the USA.
Maggot and rat infested baggage.
Charming
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Maggot and rat infested baggage

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travelled numerous times on Korean and JAL. cabins as clean at the end of the 12 hrs as at the beginning...

i don't pay for a seat to be surrounded by someone else's crap...
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I rather not sit next to a squashed Vegemite sanga, but I have noticed on JQ that the pax have become used to cleaning up after themselves and turn the emergency brochure around the right way etc. I have noticed this on a few flights recently. The C/C ask them to do so, so I guess after a few trips some get the message. The worst flights I have been on were the ones from DPS when you could still smoke. The A/C was absolutely floating on pot, (no donks needed, the flightys used to joke) and the bogans had no idea what they were doing much less care about what they did with food. Hard to believe these days but ask any C/C still around from that era they will tell you. I don't even remember any getting arrested. The engineers used to open every door on their arrival in SYD.
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I for one want a clean cabin, I don't want to be siting in someone else's squallor! But then again I am also the sort of person who leaves my little space the same way that I found it!
So, as a minimum, what would you prefer to have been done when you get to your seat...do you look at things like carpet vacummed, no rubbish in seat pockets, seatbelts crossed?
You have pointed out the bare minimums! I also expect the tray table and window to be cleaned, chewy removed from under the seats and if required the headrest cover replaced! There was a time, not that long ago when this was the standard...

PS: You may ask how I know that there is chewy under the seat, simple really, every flight I check to make sure that my life jacket is where it should be! Yuck!!!
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 05:13
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Clean On The Surface

Your seat and surrounds may look clean on the surface at a glance, but get down on the floor and have a look around as engineers have to.
Under aircraft seats and around Dado panels would have to be filthiest places on earth ! Lots of old peanuts and food scraps, and yes your seat cushion/cover hasn't been changed in God knows how long !
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Angry

Does anyone really give a rat's arse? This is supposed to be a PILOT's forum.

Who cares!
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