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Old 18th Nov 2008, 23:28
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Floor walkers - grabbed them back from the tower for WARRP, going again after successful implementation!!

TCU gains nought from the changes - should make ENR a little bit easier, well in radar airspace anyway. Expect delays as the FLOW tries to work out where you are now coming from/via/to.

ALWYN - he knows who is.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 03:16
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Early days but from an ATC perspective seemed to go OK. Usual lack of database entries for those that were airborne at the changeover time but all seems good now.

I would be interested in feedback from crews on the new SID/STAR package. All comments, constructuve is good, will be welcomed. PM or on the site is fine.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 05:30
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Good good good!

I even avoided a kamikazee Skygod by being on a segregated root!

Well done PM and GW.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 06:00
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Xatrix, you are joking, aren't you? I suggest you have another read of AIP/Jepp about the changeover time for AIRAC changes.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 11:46
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Well I flew this moring and I thought it all worked very well and quite smoothly.

We departed out of Barimunya and having our own route meant we avoided a step climb with the 2 aircraft out of West Angelas.

Only comment was we were advised quite late of a requirement to be below FL310 30nm before Renop ( or whatever it is called) which required the use of the speed brake.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 22:08
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Originally Posted by Xatrix
why does ATC begin using the new procedures before the effective date?
AFAIK, they were right on time. From AIP GEN 4. AIRAC SYSTEM

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Documents and charts issued in accordance with the AIRAC cycle become effective at 1600 hours UTC on the day prior to the nominated date unless otherwise notified;
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Old 21st Nov 2008, 08:31
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Had my first experience today, a BEVLY One to RWY 24. With only 6 waypoints in 44.6 track miles, I thought they could've added a few more. I mean, BEVLY to BOOKA is a whopping 16nm!
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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 04:32
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Alwyn I think was a certain NJS Captain's Dad who flew for Ansett MMA. A good bloke me thinks.
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 00:46
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Anyone know why most departures from Perth on Thursday morning were Radar? Seemed to work pretty well with direct on release much appreciated.
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 02:42
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ATC system upgrade on Wed night didn't work so the new SIDs/STARs weren't loaded until Thu night. NOTAM was issued amending validity of new DAPs to Thu night/Fri morning; can't fly SIDs that don't exist yet
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 05:24
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Who is "Alwyn".

Is'nt he the bloke the DCA was chasing for flying inverted over the harbour bridge at 500 kts??
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 05:57
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Exclamation

Capt Claret et all,

Yeah, there are quite a few waypoints on the STARS but if you look closely you'll notice a lot of them match up with the CTA steps. Hooray!
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 08:45
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Is'nt he the bloke the DCA was chasing for flying inverted over the harbour bridge at 500 kts??


They made a big mistake trying to catch him in their Aero Commander...
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Old 6th Jun 2009, 03:39
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Bloggsie,

Maybe the waypoint was named after the Alwyn Award, a very special award conferred, annually or more often in exceptional cases, by AOPA Australia, until some years ago ---- and, no, not when Dick Smith was President.

However, about the same time the Casawary column, the chronicle of the adventures of a boneheaded flightless bird, first appeared in the AOPA magazine. The column masthead was a masterpiece by a very talented young cartoonist.

Alternatively, maybe she is a he, located no entirely unadjacent to the YPPH area.

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Old 6th Jun 2009, 03:52
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Folks,

PS the the previous post, over the years, the yanks (before political correctness set well and truly in) were far more imaginative with names.

For those of us who worked in the area, who can ever forget the successive position on one airway from Reno (?) into KSFO, the positions being successively -- Hairy, Horny, Bushi, Mary.

Or the boundary positions around Diego Garcia-- Wotta, Bumma, Mumma.

The nearest I recall to such names here, was the well chosen GAFFA, a perfect description of the area.

ALWYN is a bit tame.

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I suspect ALWYN is so named because Alwyn Adkins, National Jet was the RAPAC convenor for W.A. for many years, and did a lot of good work for the industry.

He may have received an Australia Day Award for his work, but I'm not positive re that.
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Old 8th Jun 2009, 04:12
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A380-800,
Bloggs- Was that a result of your instrument scan? "Recover now"
I think he must have slipped into Alternate Law for a short time!!
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