Qantas A330 Emergency Landing in Learmonth
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ahh??....what problem???
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Published today by German Spiegel-Online:
"Kurz vor dem Beinaheabsturz einer Qantas-Maschine mit 313 Menschen an Bord in Australien hat ein elektronischer Alarm Probleme am Höhenruder signalisiert. Das sagte der zuständige Sicherheitsdirektor Julian Walsh am Mittwoch."
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"Shortly before the almost crash of a Quantas machine with 313 people on board in Australia, there was an electronic alarm mentioning problems with the elevator. This was said by the responsible security director Julian Walsh on Wednesday"
Is that what was meant with "warned about this three years ago"? Does not make sense, how come only this A330 has this issue and why was it not resolved?
"Kurz vor dem Beinaheabsturz einer Qantas-Maschine mit 313 Menschen an Bord in Australien hat ein elektronischer Alarm Probleme am Höhenruder signalisiert. Das sagte der zuständige Sicherheitsdirektor Julian Walsh am Mittwoch."
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"Shortly before the almost crash of a Quantas machine with 313 people on board in Australia, there was an electronic alarm mentioning problems with the elevator. This was said by the responsible security director Julian Walsh on Wednesday"
Is that what was meant with "warned about this three years ago"? Does not make sense, how come only this A330 has this issue and why was it not resolved?
. No, I'm happy that I'm not selling Airbus or planes in general these days.
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6pr.com.au has video from inside the aircraft. Shows damage to overhead panels,
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Warning Given II
Qantas was warned by both CASA and Airbus of potential computer glitches 3 years ago.It was also warned about O ring leaks in the elevator mechanism.
The O ring leak is likely not implicated in this event
As has already been mentioned Qantas does not reach its own benchmarks in maintenance.
This is perhaps an example.
Expect the Qantas Airbus fleet to be grounded pending further investigation
The O ring leak is likely not implicated in this event
As has already been mentioned Qantas does not reach its own benchmarks in maintenance.
This is perhaps an example.
Expect the Qantas Airbus fleet to be grounded pending further investigation
7 TV news is doing well - two quotes from them this morning pointing the finger at the aircraft's 'elevation system' and 'the elevator, which controls the plane's tail fin'.
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I would just like to pop my head up and support PammyAnderson (and who wouldn't) and make a few points:
Yes it is a Rumours and News Forum. The removed posts did not fit into either category.
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- I thought the speed at which the QANTAS protection society jumped up and down at the beginning of this thread was awe inspiring.
- I've got no problems with rumour, innuendo and presumptions being thrown about in the "Rumour" network .
- If we only published factual information on this site ... well, it would be pretty thin on the ground ... and you should probably go to the Aviation Safety Digest to read such stuff
- Admitedly, there's a lot of crap written, but who knows, one day some of the wheat within the chaff might just be the catalyst that leads to some safety improvement
Yes it is a Rumours and News Forum. The removed posts did not fit into either category.
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hongkongfooey,
Dunno if it makes a difference, but QF A330s are GE powered.
puff,
S/Os aren't always carried on the SIN-PER sector. Depends if they're doing it as a shuttle back up to SIN or not I think. Not sure about the flight in question.
Rollers take a crap load more than 10 secs to re-light, try nearly 2 minutes. FL370 significantly above OEI alt, even for an empty a/c, so I think the engine wind back thing is a crock It would have lost 1000s of feet.
puff,
Sounds like a hell of a flight for the S/O to perhaps get his first landing in a control seat if the F/O or Capt was injured!
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Lucky...
Sounds like they dodged a bullet more than anything. Top job by the crew involved, ac on the ground, all sob alive, good result all round. Now for the why's.....
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Apart from EMC issues involving laptops, games etc there is also the ROHS (lead free) issue to be considered. Airbus is a bit vague about how far they have gone with it but do have the usual green waffle about making progress in that direction.
For those who are not familiar with the ROHS problem basically solder joints are a lot less reliable than they used to be both initially and with cracking over time with vibration. There are also problems with tin whiskers growing and shorting between joints/tracks etc this can lead to them being zapped and disappearing leaving no trace just a one off fault.
For those who are not familiar with the ROHS problem basically solder joints are a lot less reliable than they used to be both initially and with cracking over time with vibration. There are also problems with tin whiskers growing and shorting between joints/tracks etc this can lead to them being zapped and disappearing leaving no trace just a one off fault.
I am not familiar with "flight mode" as my phone doesn't have that deature, so maybe my comment is off the mark?
I also am not convinced that phones etc have an affect, I am no expert so I simply turn my off as instructed.
With all that in mind did you notice the video on TV, from inside the cabin immediately after the incident. Taken with a mobile phone with the reporter making comments about how silly people are for using mobile phones in aircraft and ignoring the fact that their news report is based on exactly that.
I also am not convinced that phones etc have an affect, I am no expert so I simply turn my off as instructed.
With all that in mind did you notice the video on TV, from inside the cabin immediately after the incident. Taken with a mobile phone with the reporter making comments about how silly people are for using mobile phones in aircraft and ignoring the fact that their news report is based on exactly that.
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ATSB Investigator quoted in Courier Mail today indicated that pax are being quized about their use of electronic devices, particularly laptops with wireles mouse.
Follow up story carried by 9 refers to an incident in July:
ex 9msn news 1300 AESST:
"In July, a passenger clicking on a wireless mouse mid-flight was blamed for causing a Qantas jet to be thrown off course, according to the Australian Transport Safety Bureau’s monthly report."
Before the whole debate turns into a Mythbusters episode, I'd be interested in any technical comment on the data integrity of FBW systems and; if the ATSB report is correct (or correctly quoted should I say) - has the situation been able to be replicated on the test bench.
Follow up story carried by 9 refers to an incident in July:
ex 9msn news 1300 AESST:
"In July, a passenger clicking on a wireless mouse mid-flight was blamed for causing a Qantas jet to be thrown off course, according to the Australian Transport Safety Bureau’s monthly report."
Before the whole debate turns into a Mythbusters episode, I'd be interested in any technical comment on the data integrity of FBW systems and; if the ATSB report is correct (or correctly quoted should I say) - has the situation been able to be replicated on the test bench.