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Old 14th Sep 2008, 12:27
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smithy busted his gutz to get that aae contract for NJS....... qantas undercut the price with EFA. i think they call it KARMA.............i consider it a bit of a joke too.............but not laughing as much as fat boy!
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 05:08
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KARMA

Wasn't she a female Captain on the B727 with NJS doing the AAE contract?

She was with Ansett on the 727 then the A320, lovely lady......with that big Yank car in Brissy

Is that the Karma to which you refer ?
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 10:55
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That was KAMMA not karma.

I think the "karma" jack is referring to is the sh*t QF have got themselves into with these 737s when they had a perfectly good ship in the 727.
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thanks, you might be right.

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Who looks ater recruiting, I've had aferret around the net but couldnt find anything.

What hrs are they looking for?
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Hmmmm, now Captain Dump, sounds like there is a story there ?

I guesss that would have to be Daffy? and he has got himself into some sort of strife ? again!
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come on!

someone must know what's behind the dump story?
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 00:18
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Maybe the 737 had a dump on the apron with some assistance??
Some one not happy with the situation had the ****s maybe
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Old 20th Sep 2008, 00:38
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Hey TOGATap

Quote - Hmmmm, now Captain Dump, sounds like there is a story there ?

I guesss that would have to be Daffy? and he has got himself into some sort of strife ? again!

Didn't TD get into VA? I was told last week he did?

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Old 20th Sep 2008, 04:06
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Angel Capt Dump unloads on Bne frt apron.

After waiting over an hour to have toilet emptied due to a blue fluid leak and a Mel requirement. Capt Dump dropped toilet contents on Bne freight apron also wearing some himself. This was his last flight---off to fly 777`s.
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Old 20th Sep 2008, 05:30
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What ever will the VOz pax think if they see a repeat dunny spit at the gate????
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Well that was short and sweet for TD then, he only joined EFA late last year,

Was he dumped ?
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Old 20th Sep 2008, 07:37
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I absolutely loved the fact that the story about "dump" getting a fair share of the "load" was told by a guy name splashback!!! Did you create that username especially or was it just a darn funny coincidence??

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Old 20th Sep 2008, 13:05
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VH-YES, word in SIN is yes Daffy is off to fly the 777 again with V Australia.
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Old 20th Sep 2008, 22:33
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"Pilots asked to extend before the flight departs"

What is wrong with that?? The TOD has commenced......aircraft delayed (engineering/weather etc. etc) so the logical decision is to extend. If the pilots do not want to extend then they do not have to. Quite simple really This happens all the time.
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Old 20th Sep 2008, 23:51
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["Pilots asked to extend before the flight departs"

What is wrong with that?? The TOD has commenced......aircraft delayed (engineering/weather etc. etc) so the logical decision is to extend. If the pilots do not want to extend then they do not have to. Quite simple really This happens all the time.]

Well, it would be interesting to hear some different ideas on this one, my understanding, working for a couple of different airlines has always been, if you have a probelem at an outport you use that extension to get home.

You don't use it before the aircraft takes off for the first time (because the inbound a/c arrives late) and you don't use it if you are departing from or passing through a port where pilots are based ?

The wording on extensions usually includes words like "operationally necessary" etc

It should be a last resort.

It seems from the original post that started this thread, that rosters were constructed having 5 sectors and they were also at the limit for duty time with turn around times that wouldn't work, so the only way it could be done was for the crew to extend?
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Old 21st Sep 2008, 03:55
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TOGA, have worked for 4 airlines and its always the same :
Crew and CASA/CAA interpretation is use it to get home.
Crewing interpretation is use it whenever it suits them, its up to the crew to say " No ! "
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 00:59
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Splashback,

Are sure the story about captain dump is true. For it would make a mess of biblical proportions. Addditionally, if it was on a 73, he would have to be standing right under the dump valve, even if it was a nose lav, it would be nigh on impossible to get away unscathed.

I should know, I did 7000+ toilet dumps in a previous life............and only 2, um........accidents.
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 01:46
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It happened, according to a Qantas engineer on duty that night, so I was told via a good source.

Well Capt Dump, care to comment ?

That is, if you are not too busy with your 777

Was there any Splashback ????????????????????????
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 01:57
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The RAAF did toilet dumps on the flight strips at many aerodromes around Australia in the Convair 440 Metropolitan of the VIP squadron based at Canberra in the Sixties. The technique was to taxi to the nearest runway flight strip after dumping the VIP passengers to do their business in the local town.

The 440 would then stop at 90 degrees to the strip direction and ever so slowly back up in reverse pitch until the tail end was over the grass. The airman who lost the toss would then descend the stairs with a bucket of water and rags (to clean himself after the deed was done) and wait near the tail.

The pilot would then pressurise the aircraft and select idle reverse thrust. This stopped the slipstream from blowing over the airmen who would then open the toilet hatch under the fuselage and pull the chain.

Under significant pressure (aircraft pressurised, remember?), the stuff would be ejected all over the grass with inevitably some wafting over the airmen.

That done, the airman would do up the catch and wait for the pilot to unpressurise and lower the stairs. Meanwhile he would wash up in the bucket.
The Convair was then taxiied to the parking area on the tarmac and the crew went to the pub. All around Australia, little green patches would spring up on the flight strips where the Convair had done it's business.
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