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Saw this today, anyone heard of this?
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Airline Power play - Local News - News - General - Central Western Daily
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Airline Power play
10/08/2008 8:45:00 PM
FLYING to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane directly out of Orange Airport is set to become a reality after it was revealed a second airline desperately wants in on the Orange market.
If successful the second airline would not only introduce an entirely new market to the city but would break the monopoly held by embattled carrier Regional Express on a number of regional routes within a 150 kilometre radius of Orange.
The plan involves turning the small Australian Executive Air Charter service, currently based in Orange, into a fully fledged airline boasting an enormous 48 seat jet capable of flying to Sydney in just 20 minutes.
Flights to and from Brisbane and Melbourne would also form part of the airline’s key routes together with a ‘hub concept’ incorporating flights to Parkes, Dubbo, Wellington and Forbes.
The new airline’s chief proponent, Gerald Power, yesterday promised the airline would be more reliable and cheaper than service currently offered by Rex and said the service could be up and running by December.
“Following on from some of the news about Rex’s performance we believe Orange deserves a competitive and reliable service on the tarmac and that is exactly what we want to provide,” Mr Power said.
“They [Rex] has had time to provide a good service and the point is pretty obvious that they have not done that despite the fares they expect people to pay. I guarantee our fares will always be cheaper than Rex,” he said.
The Central Western Daily understands council staff are extremely supportive of the bid to introduce a second airline into the Orange market after learning the airline hopes to attract 100,000 passengers a year after five years of initial operation.
By comparison, around 60,000 people use the Orange to Sydney route each year.
The 48 seater EMB 145 jet that would form a key asset of the airline landed in Orange on Friday and was inspected by several Orange councillors and senior staff.
“When it pulled up at the airport terminal it pretty much made the Rex plane look like a toy. It’s a big plane that’s for sure, much larger than the current 30 seats that are on offer so the capacity is there to really increase the number of people we bring into this city each year,” Mr Power said.
“Now we are setting about attracting investors, local investors, because you need to have largely local ownership of this thing for it to be supported and for the service to be tailored to local needs. That’s the point Rex has missed over the years.”
Link:
Airline Power play - Local News - News - General - Central Western Daily
Article:
Airline Power play
10/08/2008 8:45:00 PM
FLYING to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane directly out of Orange Airport is set to become a reality after it was revealed a second airline desperately wants in on the Orange market.
If successful the second airline would not only introduce an entirely new market to the city but would break the monopoly held by embattled carrier Regional Express on a number of regional routes within a 150 kilometre radius of Orange.
The plan involves turning the small Australian Executive Air Charter service, currently based in Orange, into a fully fledged airline boasting an enormous 48 seat jet capable of flying to Sydney in just 20 minutes.
Flights to and from Brisbane and Melbourne would also form part of the airline’s key routes together with a ‘hub concept’ incorporating flights to Parkes, Dubbo, Wellington and Forbes.
The new airline’s chief proponent, Gerald Power, yesterday promised the airline would be more reliable and cheaper than service currently offered by Rex and said the service could be up and running by December.
“Following on from some of the news about Rex’s performance we believe Orange deserves a competitive and reliable service on the tarmac and that is exactly what we want to provide,” Mr Power said.
“They [Rex] has had time to provide a good service and the point is pretty obvious that they have not done that despite the fares they expect people to pay. I guarantee our fares will always be cheaper than Rex,” he said.
The Central Western Daily understands council staff are extremely supportive of the bid to introduce a second airline into the Orange market after learning the airline hopes to attract 100,000 passengers a year after five years of initial operation.
By comparison, around 60,000 people use the Orange to Sydney route each year.
The 48 seater EMB 145 jet that would form a key asset of the airline landed in Orange on Friday and was inspected by several Orange councillors and senior staff.
“When it pulled up at the airport terminal it pretty much made the Rex plane look like a toy. It’s a big plane that’s for sure, much larger than the current 30 seats that are on offer so the capacity is there to really increase the number of people we bring into this city each year,” Mr Power said.
“Now we are setting about attracting investors, local investors, because you need to have largely local ownership of this thing for it to be supported and for the service to be tailored to local needs. That’s the point Rex has missed over the years.”
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The 48 seater EMB 145 jet that would form a key asset of the airline landed in Orange on Friday and was inspected by several Orange councillors and senior staff.
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Virgin obviously knocked the locals back, probably with very good reason...
ORG-SY to short for a jet, ORG-ML or BN, surely there isn't enough passengers to make this viable!
ORG-SY to short for a jet, ORG-ML or BN, surely there isn't enough passengers to make this viable!
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Reg Ansett started with Oranges didn't he....
Fare paying passengers carried fruit as he wasnt allowed to charge for fair paying passengers
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The EMB 145's and CRJ 200's are all progressively being 'pushed against the fence' in the northern hemisphere regional markets in favour of larger aircraft with lower unit costs.
These aircraft are 'gas guzzlers' when fuel prices are over 20-30 USD per barrel and no business plan can stand up using the 50 seaters unless you can fill it every flight with passengers paying an uncompetitively high fare every time (SYD-OAG) AND have some additional and attractive uncontested 500 mile routes that passengers want to fly 4 to 6 times per day.
If you think otherwise, have a look at what has happened to 'Expressjet' (XJT) in the U.S. since the price of fuel started spiking. The are a very large EMB 145 operator (215 aircraft) and in May they reported a first quarter loss of $31.3Mill (USD).
If SAW had their EMB 145 in Orange (looking for business and chasing silly ideas) then clearly SAW have some cash flow issues and prospective pilot employees should take heed!
As for the rest, I agree with Krusty's comment - In aviation some people are much more willing than able!!
These aircraft are 'gas guzzlers' when fuel prices are over 20-30 USD per barrel and no business plan can stand up using the 50 seaters unless you can fill it every flight with passengers paying an uncompetitively high fare every time (SYD-OAG) AND have some additional and attractive uncontested 500 mile routes that passengers want to fly 4 to 6 times per day.
If you think otherwise, have a look at what has happened to 'Expressjet' (XJT) in the U.S. since the price of fuel started spiking. The are a very large EMB 145 operator (215 aircraft) and in May they reported a first quarter loss of $31.3Mill (USD).
If SAW had their EMB 145 in Orange (looking for business and chasing silly ideas) then clearly SAW have some cash flow issues and prospective pilot employees should take heed!
As for the rest, I agree with Krusty's comment - In aviation some people are much more willing than able!!
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I suggest to those people who want to make money out of Aviation to go and buy a new pair of jeans without any holes in.
Further points the fact to WTF is going on with SAW?
Further points the fact to WTF is going on with SAW?
You know, It's simply amazing just how little, local government and the media that stir them up, really know about aviation. With all the information readily available these days, gullible people will still allow themselves to be duped.
Don't get me wrong. I would like nothing better than to see some further growth and inovation in the regional market, but this idea will just not fly! (pardon the pun). Either the proponents will see the reality and quietly pull back, or it will be a complete financial and logistical clusterf#ck. If it does come to that, I only hope the innocent people with stars in their eyes aren't too badly burnt. It will be interesting to see what the ill informed journalist of the Central Western Daily will make of that.
If they (the proponents) do press forward with it however, it will be entertaining.
Don't get me wrong. I would like nothing better than to see some further growth and inovation in the regional market, but this idea will just not fly! (pardon the pun). Either the proponents will see the reality and quietly pull back, or it will be a complete financial and logistical clusterf#ck. If it does come to that, I only hope the innocent people with stars in their eyes aren't too badly burnt. It will be interesting to see what the ill informed journalist of the Central Western Daily will make of that.
If they (the proponents) do press forward with it however, it will be entertaining.
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I guess this could have something to do with it. SAW would've heard about the opportunity and decided to at least have a look into the route.
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Cloud hangs over Rex airline service - Local News - News - General - Central Western Daily
go_soaring! instead
