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Old 26th Jun 2008, 11:58
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Jetstar redundancies

May be pub talk, but the word there tonight was JQ is about to announce major pilot and flight attendant redundancies, most likely tomorrow.

Could it be the end of JQ International?
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 12:13
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I think this is the bit when the mods come in and remind us that journalists use this forum to post rubbish and go fishing etc. etc.
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 12:18
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I have no idea................I don't think so.

BUT if it's true then I hope those 457 yarpies are the first to get the heave ho
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 12:21
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There was a rumour somewhere on PPRUNE that JQ were offering LWOP for crews to fly in Europe with other carriers and/or a crew placement company had been contacted advising that J* had crew 'available'.

This is PPRUNE though so trust it as far as you kick it.
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Well, lets see...who can Geoff blame if they do?

Nasty Engineers for striking?

World fuel prices?

Perhaps to lower the airfares for working families?
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 13:30
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So that's the non-existant pilot shortage over then?
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 13:44
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Pundit,

Maybe some friends planting a sead to see what your PPRUNE log-in is....
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 21:37
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I have heard there is an action plan to close Jetstar International and merge the aircraft (and crew?) into Qantas Domestic.

I guess this means cabin crew will transfer to QCCA or MAM and pilots to work under Jetstar conditions in Qantas uniforms.

Don't shoot the messenger!
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 22:38
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All the big majors around the world will have to adjust their (and subsidiarys) basic models (eg frequency/bases/equipment size and number etc). Just look at United at the moment their 'adjustment' is to reduce their fleet by 25% which is 100 aircraft leaving 1000 pilots on furlough.

At the current fuel prices company models which did work 1 year ago will not work now, if companies want to survive they will have to take drastic action as long as fuel prices remain sky high ( $140 dollars a barrel and climbing at last count).
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 23:10
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Qantas have their costs reduced already and with ongoing industrial problems.

Solution

Retire their gas guzzlers and repaint the Jetstar aircraft with red tails. Now you have a lean mean machine. The 320's could fly either brand. I bet my left nut the 787 will go to Jetstar only.
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 00:02
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call button, that's an old rumour. It's been the 'default' position of many QF crew since Jetstar was first announced. When asked about it the standard response from anyone in management is that 'there are currently no plans for that to occur'.

Perhaps we should go with tunedog's suggestion. Wait, let's think it all the way through. Where do we get 25 767 aircraft worth of capacity in the short term? No big orders of replacement aircraft due in the next couple of years. So that's not going to work in the short to medium term.
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 00:09
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The end of Jetstar International?? (NO!). Goodbye cheap overseas holidays.

Why wont Jetstar just use the A330 product to Europe then when the 787's come, just replace them??
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 00:43
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As Willie Walsh alluded to the so called low-cost carriers will struggle. He went as far as predicting the demise of Ryan air and Easy jet.

As I have alluded to all along, it is the yield of the business that matters.

Given;
  • Very elastic demand
  • One way thin markets
  • A"brand" with no penetration

the writing is on the wall. There has been little sense in the exercise of Jetstar particularly as it relates to the international markets. It has gained little traction in any market it serves. Management cannot ignore the impact of oil. The cost base is under huge pressure and it isn't the pesky pilots or engineers.

The contribution margin of this business to the "group" is negative. Every airline that tried it canned it. The folly of this exercise has cost the company a fortune for no tangible results. The industrial aims are far from achievable and as such, it begs the question, who has allowed this self indulgant waste of resources to continue for so long?
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 01:16
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Fools!

May be pub talk
And you all get worked up! Christ! Doesnt take much?
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 01:31
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Jetstar will go from a 'go alone' expansion plan to one which replaces QF marginal routes.
When Dixon goes so will the JQ momentum!
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 11:38
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Don't think easy need any pilots as they have good pilot retention - according to mates who work for them!

I would have thought Jetstar would prosper in this sort of environment to the detriment of Qantas?
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 12:19
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Jet man,
Guess who travels now.....not the battlers but the business people who demand the best and have to travel(look at SQ business class-all j/c to New York and Los Angeles). The mums and dads stay at home and pay off their credit card. Jetsar will not have a sponsor when GoD leaves...........
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 21:42
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It was interesting in the SMH yesterday there was an article about the replacement of Dixon. The front runner being Gregg, and Borghetti not far behind. But the name Joyce, didn't even get a mention. Maybe Jetstar really is on the nose.
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 22:11
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So let me see the SMH would know more about the future CEO position than the Qantas board. Yeah right! Interesting also knowing how the media is viewd by PPRUNE readers and contributors.
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Old 27th Jun 2008, 22:28
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Ahhhhhh, I don't think they (or I) ever suggested they knew more than the QF board. Maybe this information came from someone close to the board, I don't know, and neither do you. Are suggesting you know what the QF board is thinking?
With regards to the way the media is viewed within Pprune. I think it's got more to do with accuracy of reports involving flying stuff (aircraft types, etc....), Not business stuff.
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