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Metro boy,
No Japanese airlines fly to Cairns, the loads and yields are just not there to justify it for them. JAL from memory were code-sharing on the 167(one of the two newly canned 767 CNS-NRT flights), not sure if they are going to code-share on the Jetstar flight to NRT later this year. ANA don't fly or code-share with anyone to Cairns.
It's a bit disapointing really that Qantas is canceling the 2 767's a day, it has been really nice staff traveling to Japan knowing everytime you are sure to get a whole row to yourself
No Japanese airlines fly to Cairns, the loads and yields are just not there to justify it for them. JAL from memory were code-sharing on the 167(one of the two newly canned 767 CNS-NRT flights), not sure if they are going to code-share on the Jetstar flight to NRT later this year. ANA don't fly or code-share with anyone to Cairns.
It's a bit disapointing really that Qantas is canceling the 2 767's a day, it has been really nice staff traveling to Japan knowing everytime you are sure to get a whole row to yourself
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"We spend money where we need to on training and maintenance and brand new planes, not on flashy office blocks.
"Our office is a demountable school shed in the car park at Melbourne airport."
"Our office is a demountable school shed in the car park at Melbourne airport."
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Newcastle suspension
Maybe the Tiger suspension on the Newcastle route is the 1st step to getting into SYD - now Shelley is onboard the negotiations maybe a little easier as was highlighted in a previous post.
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I would think so ruby, as they are pretty eager to get into sydney it seems. Shelly begins ops in mid-July, so lets hope she consider's it.
Didn't TT get Sydney slots in the beggining but gave them back for some reason, then went to NTL??
Didn't TT get Sydney slots in the beggining but gave them back for some reason, then went to NTL??
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Yes apparently they held the slots but obviously couldn't get the deal to make it viable. Considering the fluidness of the market out there SYD may decide they can make it worth it, having had their bluff called once.
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Tiger have released scheds for MEL-ROK, 3 weekly from 25th October, from the current 4weekly services.
So I guess ROK nor Darwin are axed, its just all about finalising new times, schedules, and A319's approvals etc...I would say Darwin will be on the bbooking engine in the next few days then..
So I guess ROK nor Darwin are axed, its just all about finalising new times, schedules, and A319's approvals etc...I would say Darwin will be on the bbooking engine in the next few days then..
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Tiger have managed for seven months without the SYD - MEL - BNE golden triangle. Could Virgin have managed the same ?
The fact is that Virgin did not operate the most lucrative sector of the Golden Triangle, ie between Melbourne and Sydney, until July 2001.....thats 11 months AFTER the VB operation commenced.
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And again make the point that, allegedly at the time either Virgin or Ansett were within 2 weeks of closing their doors, ANZ with their stunning management decisions saw off AN, allowing VB expansion in a market desperate for seats and where Dixon was happy to allow growth because an absolute domination of the market, in a "free market" economy, was never sustainable politically, industrially or in 'public perception.'
So at the moment QF are, yet again, remodelling schedules and/or dumping destinations (see you later Japan!), Virgin are introducing lower capacity at the bottom end (geez that worked reeeel good at AN with the CRJ's, thanks trev...and others
) whilst looking at the top end... " LCC short operations are VERY VERY different animals from LCC long haul operations..." maybe should be a topic of discussion/argument/fisticuffs at VB (or whomever is the corperate listed bastard son to cover this operation)
I seem to have digressed - the LCC is no longer Virgin, they're in the woods spending a sh*tload of money to please everyone (and probably please no-one), both Pornstar and Tiger have big backers and big bucks to keep ops afloat.
Does Virgin??
Tiger are tough (pay your uniforms, $70.00 per month every month parking, no overnights/allowances so petrol?? etc) but they appear to be sticking to the formula of LCC, a market Virgin seems to have left.
Tiger changing their schedules/destinations?? Would be nice if, in fairness, it was also mentioned how the "Aussie Icon" airline was screwing their customers far greater with their changes to international and domestic flights - maybe too much to ask for.
And Virgin?? - tough, tough times! Well done BG and (maybe) others.
So at the moment QF are, yet again, remodelling schedules and/or dumping destinations (see you later Japan!), Virgin are introducing lower capacity at the bottom end (geez that worked reeeel good at AN with the CRJ's, thanks trev
...and others) whilst looking at the top end... " LCC short operations are VERY VERY different animals from LCC long haul operations..." maybe should be a topic of discussion/argument/fisticuffs at VB (or whomever is the corperate listed bastard son to cover this operation)I seem to have digressed - the LCC is no longer Virgin, they're in the woods spending a sh*tload of money to please everyone (and probably please no-one), both Pornstar and Tiger have big backers and big bucks to keep ops afloat.
Does Virgin??
Tiger are tough (pay your uniforms, $70.00 per month every month parking, no overnights/allowances so petrol?? etc) but they appear to be sticking to the formula of LCC, a market Virgin seems to have left.
Tiger changing their schedules/destinations?? Would be nice if, in fairness, it was also mentioned how the "Aussie Icon" airline was screwing their customers far greater with their changes to international and domestic flights - maybe too much to ask for.
And Virgin?? - tough, tough times! Well done BG and (maybe) others.
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spa bath,
I think you may have that wrong. VB was never in voluntary administration. Richard Branson "accepted" a cheque from Ansett, who wanted to buy out the opposition, only to tear it up in front of the TV cameras a short time later. I don't dispute that Ansett demise was a godsend for VB. However my original post on this thread was intended only to set Metro man straight.
Thats why Virginblue had applied for Voluntary administration, just before Ansett fell over.
BNE - SYD is one of the busiest major trunk routes in the country. Tiger started on secondary routes and may expand onto the golden triangle which should give a nice revenue boost.
Some of Tigers initial routes are being dropped or frequencies reduced. Quite normal for a LCC which simply uses its aircraft where they can make the most money. Why continue flying an underperforming route when you can easily swap to a better prospect ? No pride involved, just business. Let someone else lose money on it instead. Prehaps a full service can't turn a profit between A and B but a LCC with its lower overheads can.
If you shop in Coles expect a wide range of major brands and high prices.
If you shop in ALDI expect a smaller range of lesser brands and lower prices.
If your sensible check the specials in Coles and shop in both.
Some of Tigers initial routes are being dropped or frequencies reduced. Quite normal for a LCC which simply uses its aircraft where they can make the most money. Why continue flying an underperforming route when you can easily swap to a better prospect ? No pride involved, just business. Let someone else lose money on it instead. Prehaps a full service can't turn a profit between A and B but a LCC with its lower overheads can.
If you shop in Coles expect a wide range of major brands and high prices.
If you shop in ALDI expect a smaller range of lesser brands and lower prices.
If your sensible check the specials in Coles and shop in both.
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Tiger will have hundreds of options for revenue boost if they can get into Sydney and Brissy, lets just wait to see what old Shelly is going to do to this company. TT could do alot of damage to DJ/JQ if they opened up a BNE hub
